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    • Not Nomar
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      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/8/2019 6:35AM - in reply to 15k fan
      • Not Nomar
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      • Eric Jenkins running 15k. A true Renaissance Man.
    • hart crane
      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/8/2019 6:40AM - in reply to Not Nomar
      • hart crane
      • Not Nomar wrote:

        Eric Jenkins running 15k. A true Renaissance Man.

        Jenkins FTW.
    • 15k fan
      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/8/2019 11:36AM - in reply to 15k fan
      • 15k fan
      • any LR peeps racing it?

        weather forecast looks surprisingly decent for Florida, could set some PRs
    • Americans who can't break 2:10
      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/8/2019 11:48AM - in reply to 15k fan
      • Americans who can't break 2:10
      • 15k fan wrote:

        love that front page coverage, oh wait, none

        no Huddle this year sadly, where are all the big names, who you got?
        Further proof that USATF puts too much into too many distance running championships with negligible results in terms of developing world beaters or even just a healthy sport. Have a road mile, 5K, 10K, half and marathon champs and call it good. Allows more (prize $, comped travel for qualified athletes) to be put into the half and marathon champs. Hell, have two half and marathon champs per year.
    • Just a guy with an assho. . .err, opinion
      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/8/2019 2:51PM - in reply to Americans who can't break 2:10
      • Just a guy with an assho. . .err, opinion
      • Americans who can't break 2:10 wrote:

        15k fan wrote:

        love that front page coverage, oh wait, none

        no Huddle this year sadly, where are all the big names, who you got?

        Further proof that USATF puts too much into too many distance running championships with negligible results in terms of developing world beaters or even just a healthy sport. Have a road mile, 5K, 10K, half and marathon champs and call it good. Allows more (prize $, comped travel for qualified athletes) to be put into the half and marathon champs. Hell, have two half and marathon champs per year.

        I would argue that what they need is a USATF Roads Tour, with three tiers of races:

        -USATF Road Tour Races:
        -have to have a minimum # of athletes given travel and accommodations (6 per gender)
        -have to have a minimum amount of prize money ($10,000/gender) at least 5 deep
        -top-6 athletes earn Road Tour Points based on their finish (10-7-5-3-2-1)
        -must test 4 athletes (men's/women's winner, 1 random/gender)
        -can be any distance (mile to marathon)
        -approx. 16 of these races per year, with approx. 4 5k or shorter, 4 half marathon or longer, and 8 between 5k and half marathon

        -USATF Roads Tour Landmarks:
        -have to have a minimum # of athletes given travel and accommodations (12 per gender), with right of first refusal for those spots being reserved for the most recent USATF 10,000m, 5,000m, and XC champions, plus the top-5 finishers in last year's overall tour standings and the top-2 in the same Major last year
        -have to have a minimum amount of prize money ($20,000/gender) at least 8 deep
        -top-8 athletes earn Road Tour Points based on their finish (20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1)
        -must test 8 athletes (men's/women's winner and runner-up, 2 random/gender)
        -will be four of these races per year: one 10k, one half marathon, one additional short-distance major (10k or shorter, to be a mile every even-numbered year), and one additional long-distance major (longer than 10k, to be a marathon every odd-numbered year)

        USATF National Championships:
        -have to have a minimum # of athletes given travel and accommodations (20 per gender), with right of first refusal for 10 of those spots being reserved for the most recent winner of the USATF 10,000m, 5,000m, and XC champions, plus the top-5 finishers in last year's overall tour standings and the top-2 in the same National Championship last year
        -have to have a minimum amount of prize money ($40,000/gender) at least 12 deep
        -top-12 athletes earn Road Tour Points based on their finish (30-25-20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1)
        -must test 10 athletes (men's/women's top-3, 2 random/gender)
        -will be four of these races per year: one 10k, one half marathon, one additional short-distance major (10k or shorter, to be a mile every odd-numbered year), and one additional long-distance major (longer than 10k, to be a marathon every even-numbered year)

        To be eligible for the USATF Road Tour Title, an athlete must score in at least 5 races, 2 of which must be 10k or shorter and 2 of which must be longer than 10k. An athlete's placing in the overall standings will be determined by their total points earned in all USATF Road Tour races in that calendar year. $100,000 of prize money should be awarded to the top 5 finishers in USATF Road Tour Standings in each gender each year ($50,000/$25,000/$15,000/$7,500/$2,500).

        Honestly, though, now that I look at this, I wonder whether USATF needs to be involved, or whether the PRRO races, Houston, CIM, Twin Cities, P3R, Grandma's, Falmouth, Beach to Beacon, Wharf to Wharf, etc should just do something like this on their own if they could ever coordinate . . .
    • bartholomew_maxwell
      • Erika Kemp, Relative Unknown, wins Gate River Run 3/9/2019 10:09AM
      • bartholomew_maxwell
      • Interesting. I've never heard of her and she's been low on the radar.

        LRC addition; Here are the top 10 men's and women's results:

        Female
        1. 84 Erika Kemp 24 Brookline MA 50:54 50:54 5:27
        2. 4 Bethany Sachtleben 27 Fairfax VA 51:08 51:08 5:29
        3. 30 Maggie Montoya 23 Boulder CO 51:23 51:23 5:30
        4. 48 Kate Landau 42 Tacoma WA 51:35 51:35 5:32
        5. 6 Bridget Belyeu 31 Fairburn GA 51:40 51:40 5:32
        6. 90 Rachel Schneider 27 Johnson City TN 51:40 51:40 5:32
        7. 58 Bria Wetsch 30 Broomfield CO 51:50 51:50 5:33
        8. 8 Katy Jermann 26 Burnsville MN 52:20 52:20 5:36
        9. 88 Alia Gray 30 Boulder CO 52:27 52:27 5:37
        10. 26 Shalaya Kipp 28 Vancouver BC 53:01 53:01 5:41

        Male
        1. 86 Shadrack Kipchirchir 30 Colorado Springs CO 43:41 43:41 4:41
        2. 1 Leonard Korir 32 Colorado springs CO 43:42 43:42 4:41
        3. 5 Stanley Kebenei 29 Colorado Springs CO 43:41 43:42 4:41
        4. 3 Martin Hehir 26 Philadelphia PA 43:59 43:59 4:43
        5. 33 Frankline Tonui 25 Colorado Springs CO 44:00 44:00 4:43
        6. 17 Colin Bennie 23 Charlottesville VA 44:16 44:17 4:44
        7. 15 Jerrell Mock 23 Fort Collins CO 44:35 44:36 4:46
        8. 59 Enoch Nadler 33 Gainesville FL 44:48 44:48 4:48
        9. 21 Samuel Kosgei 34 Colorado Springs CO 44:58 44:58 4:49
        10. 57 Matthew Mcdonald 25 Atlanta GA 45:23 45:23 4:52

        Previous interview:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdOudtjp0S8

        https://www.news4jax.com/sports/gate-river-run-2019-runners-prepare-for-saturdays-race
    • headliine news.......
      • RE: Erika Kemp, Relative Unknown, wins Gate River Run 3/9/2019 10:13AM - in reply to bartholomew_maxwell
      • headliine news.......
      • Toddler killed,
        grandmother mauled in attack by family dogs
        Dramatic rescue on I-95 after RV crushes car against guardrail
        Jacksonville zookeeper struck by rhino yells: 'He's got me!'

        Hard to compete against these interesting stories.
    • bartholomew_maxwell
      • RE: Erika Kemp, Relative Unknown, wins Gate River Run 3/9/2019 10:15AM - in reply to headliine news.......
      • bartholomew_maxwell
      • headliine news....... wrote:

        Toddler killed,
        grandmother mauled in attack by family dogs
        Dramatic rescue on I-95 after RV crushes car against guardrail
        Jacksonville zookeeper struck by rhino yells: 'He's got me!'

        Hard to compete against these interesting stories.

        Florida is no joke...It gets real down there...
    • 15k fan
      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/9/2019 12:30PM - in reply to 15k fan
      • 15k fan
      • results are out, congrats to all
        (apparently USATF isn't even doing video for Championship events now?)

        Men's Results
        1. Shadrack Kipchirchir 43:41
        2. Leonard Korir 43:42
        3. Stanley Kebenei 43:42
        4. Martin Hehir 43:59
        5. Frankline Tonui 44:00
        6. Colin Bennie 44:17
        7. Jarrell Mock 44:36
        8. Enoch Nadler 44:48
        9. Sammy Kosgei 44:58
        10. Matt McDonald 45:23

        Women's Results
        1. Erika Kemp 50:54
        2. Bethany Sachtleben 51:08
        3. Maggie Montoya 51:23
        4. Kate Landau 51:35
        5. Bridget Belyeu 51:40
        6. Rachel Schneider 51:40
        7. Bria Wetsch 51:50
        8. Katy Jermann 52:20
        9. Alia Gray 52:27
        10. Shalaya Kipp 53:01
    • TLW
      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/9/2019 12:40PM - in reply to 15k fan
      • TLW
      • 15k fan wrote:

        results are out, congrats to all
        (apparently USATF isn't even doing video for Championship events now?)

        WTF...It's 2019.
    • Is this thread update?
      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/9/2019 12:50PM - in reply to 15k fan
      • Is this thread update?
      • I have heard two of those 20 names. Sad for me, but also sad Level of competition.
    • GBohannon
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      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/9/2019 1:23PM - in reply to Is this thread update?
      • GBohannon
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      • Is this thread update? wrote:

        I have heard two of those 20 names. Sad for me, but also sad Level of competition.

        Fair. I would say that the top 4 guys, Rachel Schneider, and Shalaya Kipp should be familar-ish to frequent LRC visitors. Granted, I live on the site and recognize all 20 so maybe my thoughts are skewed.
    • Get over yourself kid
      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/9/2019 2:19PM - in reply to Is this thread update?
      • Get over yourself kid
      • Is this thread update? wrote:

        I have heard two of those 20 names. Sad for me, but also sad Level of competition.

        You obviously don’t follow the sport. And that’s big talk coming from someone who isn’t in the results.
    • 15k fan
      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/9/2019 3:31PM - in reply to GBohannon
      • 15k fan
      • The crazy thing is any 15k time under 45 for men is equivalent to OTQ-A quality and anything under 52-53 is the same for the women

        All those men are like vdot 75 or better and the women are 62-65, and it was a hot and humid day compared to previous years.

        These are some very talented and hard training people but on LR unless you are like top 3 in the nation, little to no respect. I've never understood that. Yeah there are some who are true fans and do know/follow the names but they seem to be the exception and not the rule.

        Now on the other hand, USATF has no excuses, I mean their responsibility is to promote the sport and take money from sponsors to do that. They are not a true non-profit and definitely not a government entity. What exactly are they doing? Their website feels like it is from the 1990s and they lock the videos they do create behind a paywall instead of encouraging viewership and excitement, preventing new fans from being attracted to the sport.
    • dnf dns
      • RE: USATF 15K champs at Gate River, Jacksonville Florida on Saturday 3/9/2019 3:40PM - in reply to Not Nomar
      • dnf dns
      • Not Nomar wrote:

        Eric Jenkins running 15k. A true Renaissance Man.

        Eric Jenkins update? DNF or DNS???