My little tiny high school had a kid run 1:52 last year. The greatest athletic university in sports can't get a kid to run any faster? Were all the football players too busy studying?
My little tiny high school had a kid run 1:52 last year. The greatest athletic university in sports can't get a kid to run any faster? Were all the football players too busy studying?
Seems kind of slow..... wrote:
My little tiny high school had a kid run 1:52 last year. The greatest athletic university in sports can't get a kid to run any faster? Were all the football players too busy studying?
Do you think your little tiny high school kid could get into Stanford? There lays the challenge that every Stanford coach has - academic entrance requirements. Very few universities hold their athletes to similar entrance requirements of the regular student body - Stanford is one of those very few schools.
Win?
yeah he hates it wrote:
There's a thread right now about how football players can run 46 in a DMR. And that's why he hates it, because the most splits are too slow in the DMR.
Think your confused or someone is missing a decimal point. That should read 4.6 for the 40.0. Football players don't understand what those lines around the field mean. As they can only run in a straight line and turning is not a requirement. Plus, they can't fathom why if you reached the end zone, why someone would keep running. ;-)
Great race, the DMR never disappoints, always has some spectacular performances throughout the race. Has to have the most place changes then any other event. A true battle on the track. I guess rojo can't appreciate a team effort. It must confuse those who only want to judge individual performances.
Which team has a Paralympian? I still don't get why that's allowed.
rojo wrote:
I say great race but it also showed why I hate the DMR. I thought maybe for once I'd see a team win it on the first 3 legs but Iowa State only finished 5th after and they started the final leg 7.21 seconds ahead of Notre Dame and 9.25 seconds ahead of Stanford.
Great race and I enjoy the DMR because you just never know how it will go. Enjoy the race man. Fisher received the baton in 10th position and almost pulled off the win. Iowa State had a massive lead only to get sucked up. There was lots of intrigue, position change and excitement at the finish. Pretty entertaining race I would say and the athletes seem to really enjoy running the relays.
rojo wrote:
Which team has a Paralympian? I still don't get why that's allowed.
Arkansas. I don’t understand why it’s allowed either. The mishap cost Stanford the win.
JNathletics wrote:
yeah he hates it wrote:
There's a thread right now about how football players can run 46 in a DMR. And that's why he hates it, because the most splits are too slow in the DMR.
Think your confused or someone is missing a decimal point. That should read 4.6 for the 40.0. Football players don't understand what those lines around the field mean. As they can only run in a straight line and turning is not a requirement. Plus, they can't fathom why if you reached the end zone, why someone would keep running. ;-)
Great race, the DMR never disappoints, always has some spectacular performances throughout the race. Has to have the most place changes then any other event. A true battle on the track. I guess rojo can't appreciate a team effort. It must confuse those who only want to judge individual performances.
That's football players running 46 for the DMR 400 split.
there were quite a few fast ones in 2011...including andy bayer splitting 3:53 and ben b. and david bishop going 3:54. i remember that race pretty well...it was an insane last few laps.
https://flashresults.com/2011_Meets/indoor/03-11-NCAADiv1/Results10-1.htm
2016 was ches going 3:52 but yorks also went 3:54.
https://flashresults.com/2016_Meets/Indoor/03-11_NCAA/010-1-01.htm
Live_from_Moms_Basement wrote:
rojo wrote:
I say great race but it also showed why I hate the DMR. I thought maybe for once I'd see a team win it on the first 3 legs but Iowa State only finished 5th after and they started the final leg 7.21 seconds ahead of Notre Dame and 9.25 seconds ahead of Stanford.
Iowa State should’ve had their 1:47 guy lead off 1200, the 2:53 guy run the mile, and the 4:05 guy run the 800.
^^^^ THIIIIIIS
What was Iowa State thinking? They're 1200 leg DOMINATED and still look like he had more in the tank. I don't know about moving the 8 guy to the 12, but maybe even put the 4:05 guy (who btw has ran 4:00 for the full mile) in the 12 instead. Even if he only split 2:57-2:58, their 400 and 800 legs were so good that they would have put their 1200 in good position going into the last mile. Maybe he wouldn't have beat ND and Stanford, but at least they hang for 3rd.
rojo wrote:
I say great race but it also showed why I hate the DMR. I thought maybe for once I'd see a team win it on the first 3 legs but Iowa State only finished 5th after and they started the final leg 7.21 seconds ahead of Notre Dame and 9.25 seconds ahead of Stanford.
Never understood why the DMR isn't 1600-1200-800-400. As it stands now your 400 leg is basically a placeholder.
Put almost any other AA anchor on Iowa State and they could have set the world record tonight. First three legs ran brilliantly.
Paul Bunyan wrote:
malmo wrote:
I'm not understanding why that makes you hate the DMR?
I think he's suggesting that the first 3 legs don't matter, and that makes the race less interesting. The team with the fastest (or near fastest) miler wins.
Not saying that it's true...or that I agree...
I'm not sure how you think you're clarifying rojo's comment? In almost every relay race ever run, the team with the fastest anchor wins 80% of the time, in my guestimation. The team with the slowest anchor probably wins less than 5% of the time. The DMR, in general. and this specific DMR isn't any different than any other relay race.
I want to confirm, but this is off of memory, that Kimani ran 3:52 high. Can anyone else comment on this?
God Bless he and his family.
Wanna start by saying im a big fisher fan and he is my favorite person to watch run in the ncaa right now.
Is anyone else not particularly impressed by this carry? He ran a 3:54 point chasing all out, and moved too early, and got caught at the line. If u told me before the race that he was getting the stick 7+ down or whatever it was (prob closer to 10) and he got to run clear and free and just hunt for 5-6-7 laps and then kick...id have guessed 3:52 low. He ran a 3:58.low 1600 from a standing start in HS.
Losing this is NOT his fault and i dont want it to come off that way. 3:54 is legit, its obviously not bad at all. However, as previously stated, bayer with a 3:53, York’s, Cheserek, kimani (allegedly), etc have ALL split better,. I know theyre all great runners, but Yorks and Bayer i consider a step behind fisher.
I give todays run a 6/10, he was totally fresh, able to chase everyone, and in very very good shape and healthy (as far as i know). I honestly thought he was gonna run 3:52 or 3:51 when he caught everyone.
Hobbyjoggaz in Paris wrote:
rojo wrote:
I say great race but it also showed why I hate the DMR. I thought maybe for once I'd see a team win it on the first 3 legs but Iowa State only finished 5th after and they started the final leg 7.21 seconds ahead of Notre Dame and 9.25 seconds ahead of Stanford.
Never understood why the DMR isn't 1600-1200-800-400. As it stands now your 400 leg is basically a placeholder.
To make all the legs relevant and the race infinitely more exciting, descend the staircase: 1600, 1200, 800, 400. Finishing kick can make or break but the race is made in the longer stuff.
Seems kind of slow..... wrote:
My little tiny high school had a kid run 1:52 last year. The greatest athletic university in sports can't get a kid to run any faster? Were all the football players too busy studying?
Well, the guy who ran the 800 leg for Stanford does have a 1:49 PR.
ncrecuvuer wrote:
Live_from_Moms_Basement wrote:
Iowa State should’ve had their 1:47 guy lead off 1200, the 2:53 guy run the mile, and the 4:05 guy run the 800.
^^^^ THIIIIIIS
What was Iowa State thinking? They're 1200 leg DOMINATED and still look like he had more in the tank. I don't know about moving the 8 guy to the 12, but maybe even put the 4:05 guy (who btw has ran 4:00 for the full mile) in the 12 instead. Even if he only split 2:57-2:58, their 400 and 800 legs were so good that they would have put their 1200 in good position going into the last mile. Maybe he wouldn't have beat ND and Stanford, but at least they hang for 3rd.
meh, it all works out nicely on paper.
these kids need to get in there and race and deal with the anxiety of it all. it's more than figuring out splits on an envelope.
that's where college sports is interesting. not everyone can play it cool and handle the pressure. the great athletes run what they are expected to run and the others either choke or do something special. makes you appreciate the stud athletes. happens every year in the final four too
Student athlete wrote:
Seems kind of slow..... wrote:
My little tiny high school had a kid run 1:52 last year. The greatest athletic university in sports can't get a kid to run any faster? Were all the football players too busy studying?
Do you think your little tiny high school kid could get into Stanford? There lays the challenge that every Stanford coach has - academic entrance requirements. Very few universities hold their athletes to similar entrance requirements of the regular student body - Stanford is one of those very few schools.
What? The coaches at Stanford absolutely can "stamp" applications. Are you thinking of the Ivy league schools? Because those schools claim all athletes have to get in on their own, then can join the team. That is very much not the case at Stanford. I had a teammate get into Stanford with a 1280 SAT and no extra curricular, community service, or other compelling story, because he ran 9 flat. No way 1280 SAT gets you into Stanford without a coach sponsoring you.
Student athlete wrote:
Seems kind of slow..... wrote:
My little tiny high school had a kid run 1:52 last year. The greatest athletic university in sports can't get a kid to run any faster? Were all the football players too busy studying?
Do you think your little tiny high school kid could get into Stanford? There lays the challenge that every Stanford coach has - academic entrance requirements. Very few universities hold their athletes to similar entrance requirements of the regular student body - Stanford is one of those very few schools.
Notre Dame which they lost too is also one of them.