If taking LSD, a mind altering drug, is the best experience of your life then you have a sh*tty life. You clearly are not a father, husband, brother, uncle or successful athlete that ever obtained any success throughout your career.
God help you. You should never use any substance that alters your state again, and begin working on improving what reality is for you. Get involved with the community.
Loser alert... wrote:
If taking LSD, a mind altering drug, is the best experience of your life then you have a sh*tty life. You clearly are not a father, husband, brother, uncle or successful athlete that ever obtained any success throughout your career.
God help you. You should never use any substance that alters your state again, and begin working on improving what reality is for you. Get involved with the community.
You sound like you could use some real enlightenment and a bit less time at your local Christian church. Taking mind altering drugs can be truly spiritually uplifting, way more so than listening to a sermon. You don't have to take my word for it. Entire religions are based on mind altering drug rituals. (Google ayahuasca.)
I am just about everything you listed above: Father, husband, brother, decent athlete, and extremely successful in my career. Also active in my local community.
So yeah, I dropped acid in college. It expanded my mind in various ways. And it certainly didn't destroy my life. Also--shockingly--I still smoke weed a couple of times a year. Oh and sometimes I even drink a beer.
Guess what else alters my state of mind on the regular? Running! I guess I'd better stop doing that, lest I become even more of a loser. The comedown off of the runner's high is harsh.
LOL, you are lucky, not smart. Here is a story of another 50 year old man that didn't end quite as well.
https://www.chieftain.com/51ee3a78-a918-11e0-8882-001cc4c002e0.html
I have a good chuckle every time I read that article and every time I hear some idiot proclaim how safe LSD is. All drugs have side effects. Some more severe than others. Say no to drugs kids. Dead in a ravine with your pants around one ankle is no way to end up.
Please do not enter into a forum of public debate. The various activities to engage in you referenced did not share much in common, thus destroying your point.
LSD is created in a lab. It is not natural, and thus has the potential to cause severe harm to your body and mind. That is already different from weed.
My brother suffers from epilepsy, and once that began, which was actually late in his life after a severe injury, the doctor warned him that engaging in the use of any hallucinogens will likely trigger epileptic activity, and is extremely harmful to his neurological state.
The neurologist went on to make a joke at the expense of people like you, saying something along the lines of don't listen to the friend who thinks he knows more than he does about how it has some positive effect. Leave this to the medical professionals.
Sadly, I have a personal experience prior to when I was living with only my teammates once I was in the NCAA. When I was in prep school, my former roommate had been exceptional in both class and his endeavors outside of the classroom, and was well liked. He was one of my best friends, and he kept it to purely alcohol at the occasional party. Well, his second semester senior year he turned to LSD at the beginning of the semester because he was "curious". He began taking it on a weekly basis, and I have never seen such a drastic change in a human being in such a short period of time. He was depressed and constantly irritable when he wasn't high.
He eventually was put on suicide watch, and two years later was pulled over by a state trooper where they found a large quantity of various illegal drugs. Obviously, LSD being just one of them. For my roommate from prep school, LSD was the beginning of the end for him. He had a bright future, and I wish there was something I could have done to have stopped this from happening.
Loser alert... wrote:
Please do not enter into a forum of public debate. The various activities to engage in you referenced did not share much in common, thus destroying your point.
LSD is created in a lab. It is not natural, and thus has the potential to cause severe harm to your body and mind. That is already different from weed.
My brother suffers from epilepsy, and once that began, which was actually late in his life after a severe injury, the doctor warned him that engaging in the use of any hallucinogens will likely trigger epileptic activity, and is extremely harmful to his neurological state.
The neurologist went on to make a joke at the expense of people like you, saying something along the lines of don't listen to the friend who thinks he knows more than he does about how it has some positive effect. Leave this to the medical professionals.
Sadly, I have a personal experience prior to when I was living with only my teammates once I was in the NCAA. When I was in prep school, my former roommate had been exceptional in both class and his endeavors outside of the classroom, and was well liked. He was one of my best friends, and he kept it to purely alcohol at the occasional party. Well, his second semester senior year he turned to LSD at the beginning of the semester because he was "curious". He began taking it on a weekly basis, and I have never seen such a drastic change in a human being in such a short period of time. He was depressed and constantly irritable when he wasn't high.
He eventually was put on suicide watch, and two years later was pulled over by a state trooper where they found a large quantity of various illegal drugs. Obviously, LSD being just one of them. For my roommate from prep school, LSD was the beginning of the end for him. He had a bright future, and I wish there was something I could have done to have stopped this from happening.
Alcohol is not created in a lab, but it has ruined many lives; drunk people have committed murder and have caused fatal automobile accidents.
What's the difference besides one being illegal?
I've done acid 8-10 times over the past fiver years and a few times I have gotten ripped out of my mind. Even while tripping absolute balls I am able to tell myself not to do anything stupid, just ride the trip and the things you are seeing are not real.
These kids stabbing people must of never gotten high before, high strung as hell and ready to pop, or weak minded.
Loser alert... wrote:
Well, his second semester senior year he turned to LSD at the beginning of the semester because he was "curious". He began taking it on a weekly basis, and I have never seen such a drastic change in a human being in such a short period of time. He was depressed and constantly irritable when he wasn't high.
We can add that right on top of the Official List of Things That Never Happened. You've been watching "Reefer Madness," I guess?
Violence is a very atypical reaction to LSD. He was likely taking a different drug without knowing it. Taking drugs is a risk, especially if you don't get them tested to make sure they are what you think they are.
I hope he gets off easy, since 1) the US prison system is often cruel and unusual punishment itself and 2) his girlfriend (the actual victim here) clearly wants him off the hook. Really, it should be her call.
holy shite wrote:
Taking drugs is a risk, especially if you don't get them tested to make sure they are what you think they are.
This is why we should have a legal, regulated system. Absent that, everybody should use a test kit.
No, it actually happened. His lack of motivation was unrelated to the LSD. Looking back on it, he turned to a new avenue to try something that would be "exciting" to him.
His track and field career was over, and he had tried to run fast enough to make it to the NCAA, but didn't quite hit the marks he needed. It was a dark time for him.
No, this is not an exaggeration. Our coach got involved with this, and it was a serious issue for everyone connected to him.
I don't disagree with you about alcohol having the potential to create serious problems, and be the genesis of horrifying issues.
I think we all know at least one person who has had an issue with alcohol destroying relationships for them, and creating real problems.
I was specifically talking about the guy's comparison of LSD to weed and running. LSD is manufactured in a lab, and is a chemical drug that is not always safe. At least you know what you're getting yourself into with alcohol. Weed is a lot safer than LSD, but I do not smoke anything. That includes cigars, cigarettes...etc. Merely due to maintaining my health, and really due to when I was competing I just wanted to maintain the most conducive possible lifestyle to enhancing my performance without using an illegal PED.
Loser alert... wrote:
Weed is a lot safer than LSD, but I do not smoke anything.
How are you defining safe and how are you coming to the conclusion that weed is a lot safer than LSD?
Unsympathetic in Seattle wrote:
Drunk drivers who accidentally kill someone go to prison for a very long time. The word was, accidentally. Someone who intentionally stabs another person repeatedly while on drugs should have a much more stringent punishment than the drunk driver. I am pretty sure if someone intentionally runs over their girl friend in a fit of rage while drunk, they would go to prison for life. Stabbing someone is more violent than being behind the wheel of a car.
Well, there’s a reason the felony murder rule came about, it’s because we find it reprehensible when someone is committing any type of crime that leads to someone’s death, whether there was intent or not.
I think we can safely say that discussion of race walking and discussion of LSD-induced violence have a nearly identical effect on the message boards.
I think we can also safely say that race walking would be waaaaay more interesting if the participants were on LSD.
kartelite wrote:
Unsympathetic in Seattle wrote:
Drunk drivers who accidentally kill someone go to prison for a very long time. The word was, accidentally. Someone who intentionally stabs another person repeatedly while on drugs should have a much more stringent punishment than the drunk driver. I am pretty sure if someone intentionally runs over their girl friend in a fit of rage while drunk, they would go to prison for life. Stabbing someone is more violent than being behind the wheel of a car.
Well, there’s a reason the felony murder rule came about, it’s because we find it reprehensible when someone is committing any type of crime that leads to someone’s death, whether there was intent or not.
I do not believe that a DUI accident that results in a death is eligible for a felony murder charge anywhere in the US.
All recent studies show that alcohol in smal amounts is healthy. By heathy, I don’t mean that is just acceptable but actually good for you. LSD is unhealthy in any amount. Sorry to confuse many of you druggies with facts.
Alcohol is good wrote:
All recent studies show that alcohol in smal amounts is healthy. By heathy, I don’t mean that is just acceptable but actually good for you. LSD is unhealthy in any amount. Sorry to confuse many of you druggies with facts.
When you say "facts" I assume you have evidence to back that up?
Ah, the same stuff they used to pump Tour de France riders full of during the mountain stages.
He's from the upper social classes, which can finagle the justice system. (Example: the Kennedy family).
Mummsie and Daddo will get him some top notch lawyer that will get him a plea deal of going to some sort of mental/drug rehab rather than doing a stretch at San Quentin. Especially after the girlfriend says it was no big deal and she still loves him.
The only justice in the halls of justice is in the halls (where plea deals are made.)