For decades we have been fighting this gender question in all areas of society. Of course, the vast majority of women, along with other groups of society, have voted all for the Caster Semenyas. It has always been said one day this will come down on women and THEN OH MY GOD stop this! Before Caster ever ran her first race, I'll bet ALL these women would have voted to let her run. BOO Hoo for her, let the poor victim run. Never realizing what this would all lead to. You reap what you shove up everybody's arse for years. I say screw it, the Caster Semenyas' of the world, should be able to compete with women in all facets of society, in all areas of women sports, careers, education etc etc. Its what women always demanded, for victims such as Caster.
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Are you boys STILL getting all excited about this?!!!
Come on. Move on. Or at least seek help. -
Bad Wigins wrote:
NeverAWMDRF wrote:
DSD athletes (led by Semenya) placed 1-2-3 in this Rio Olympics track event!
This slippery-slope, by-association thinking is stupid.
Niyonsaba may not be especially effiminate, but she is short, has broad hips and relatively big legs, and narrow shoulders and a small upper body and arms. And a small, sloping jawline. If you saw her on the street, not knowing who she was, there is no way - don't lie - you would even remotely think she was male.
I’m a woman, and have spent my life racing against other women. And Niyonsaba looks like a typical sticky youthful male to me. Never in a million years would I assume she is a female.
I felt the same when I saw the photo of the British hill runner who was jailed for attempted murder of a UK athletics official charged with investigating whether she had been taking testosterone suppressing medication. Lauren Jeske was of course born male and competed as a male until his teens. Typically male build, albeit slender, especially the shoulders.
Despite this history of violence and abuse of rules, the BBC recently barred women originally invited to appear in a radio programme discussing transgender issues in sport, and only permitted two male born transgender individuals to discuss the issue.
Female athletes and women are being effectively silenced on this issue. Most active athletes will have it in their contracts, either with their sponsors or their national federations, that they are not allowed to speak out.
I still think that some form of protest should be done by the athletes in the next high profile championships to feature Semenya, Niyonsaba year al in a final, by lining up and refusing to start, then after 1 minute, running their own race.
No one is saying these athletes cannot run, just that they should not run against women who are born as women.
Why should it be women that have to bear the brunt of this?
Women are fed up being told what to do by men. -
dunes runner wrote:
NeverAWMDRF wrote:
Y chromosome Hermaphrodites have been around since the dawn of time. It is nothing new.
The difference is morals and ethics.
I wish this forum had friend's lists, and I'd put you on mine.
Thank you for standing up for real women.
You would want this guy that goes on crazy, nonsensical tirades about Canadians discriminating against him to be on your friends list? Have fun with that. -
What would happen to the athletes that were at the start line to run against the questionable females stood still after the gun went off and had there own race.
Would be interesting to see what action would be taken against them . -
No reason to worry anymore.
The new IAAF rules states that "Yes, A Secret Man", and all others like him, must lower their testosterone levels to below 5 nmol/L
Once this happens they will not be able to even make Olympic or World standard, which is 2:00 for 800m. (2:00.60 to be exact). No way they can run under that with normalized testosterone levels.
So thankfully we will never see them again participating in any international competition.
Just an FYI: Technically just being under 5 nmol/L is NOT normal. The normal level for testosterone in a woman is between 0.12 to 1.79 nmol/L.
The only way these Y Chromosome Hermaphrodites can succeed is by cheating. Level the playing field, normalize the testosterone levels and they will be eliminated at their national championships in South Africa, Burundi and Kenya.
As Spike Lee would say: "Tru Dat, Sho 'Nuff" -
NeverAWMDRF wrote:
No reason to worry anymore.
The new IAAF rules states that "Yes, A Secret Man", and all others like him, must lower their testosterone levels to below 5 nmol/L
Once this happens they will not be able to even make Olympic or World standard, which is 2:00 for 800m. (2:00.60 to be exact). No way they can run under that with normalized testosterone levels.
So thankfully we will never see them again participating in any international competition.
Just an FYI: Technically just being under 5 nmol/L is NOT normal. The normal level for testosterone in a woman is between 0.12 to 1.79 nmol/L.
The only way these Y Chromosome Hermaphrodites can succeed is by cheating. Level the playing field, normalize the testosterone levels and they will be eliminated at their national championships in South Africa, Burundi and Kenya.
As Spike Lee would say: "Tru Dat, Sho 'Nuff"
brojos must be asleep right now. -
Hey all of you PC SJWs in Canada: I guess this BLACK man is also a bigot yes?
https://youtu.be/Ugzxb5zM-A4 -
NeverAWMDRF wrote:
Hey all of you PC SJWs in Canada:
Who? -
The PC SJW’s are the a-holes in Ontario who disingenuously show support for those cheating Y Chromosome Hermaphrodites. In the process showing lack of support for one of their very own people - the (should have been) Olympic champion Melissa Bishop of Ontario.
What is a 'politically correct social justice warrior (PC SJW)’?
Someone who acts offended on behalf of minorities. An act of clearly disingenuous nature.
So why are they doing this?
Is it because they have minorities as relatives? No.
Is it because they have minorities as friends? No.
Is it because they coaches minorities? No.
They do it to raise their status among that (pathetic) liberal community. So that those rather sad hypocritical individuals will give each other a pat on the back and that will make him feel good about themselves and their miserable lives.
#NeverPC #NeverSemenya -
NeverAWMDRF wrote:
The PC SJW’s are the a-holes in Ontario who disingenuously show support for those cheating Y Chromosome Hermaphrodites. In the process showing lack of support for one of their very own people - the (should have been) Olympic champion Melissa Bishop of Ontario.
What is a 'politically correct social justice warrior (PC SJW)’?
Someone who acts offended on behalf of minorities. An act of clearly disingenuous nature.
So why are they doing this?
Is it because they have minorities as relatives? No.
Is it because they have minorities as friends? No.
Is it because they coaches minorities? No.
They do it to raise their status among that (pathetic) liberal community. So that those rather sad hypocritical individuals will give each other a pat on the back and that will make him feel good about themselves and their miserable lives.
#NeverPC #NeverSemenya
I'm aware of what the term means, but do you actually have anything to support your claims of "a-holes in Ontario" being PC SJWs? -
99.99% of the human population is against the participation of Y chromosome Hermaphrodites from women sports.
Here is another brave example . . . and he is a Canadian:
https://www.newyorker.com/sports/sporting-scene/caster-semenya-and-the-logic-of-olympic-competition -
NeverAWMDRF wrote:
The new IAAF rules states that "Yes, A Secret Man", and all others like him, must lower their testosterone levels to below 5 nmol/L
Technically just being under 5 nmol/L is NOT normal. The normal level for testosterone in a woman is between 0.12 to 1.79 nmol/L.
Below 5 is something, but not enough. The standard should be below 2, and not only limit testosterone.
Anyone who has ANY uniquely male characteristics advantages should not be allowed in women's events, for example anyone with non female chromosomes, and anyone who has or has had undescended testes should not be allowed. -
oharrier wrote:
NeverAWMDRF wrote:
The PC SJW’s are the a-holes in Ontario who disingenuously show support for those cheating Y Chromosome Hermaphrodites. In the process showing lack of support for one of their very own people - the (should have been) Olympic champion Melissa Bishop of Ontario.
What is a 'politically correct social justice warrior (PC SJW)’?
Someone who acts offended on behalf of minorities. An act of clearly disingenuous nature.
So why are they doing this?
Is it because they have minorities as relatives? No.
Is it because they have minorities as friends? No.
Is it because they coaches minorities? No.
They do it to raise their status among that (pathetic) liberal community. So that those rather sad hypocritical individuals will give each other a pat on the back and that will make him feel good about themselves and their miserable lives.
#NeverPC #NeverSemenya
I'm aware of what the term means, but do you actually have anything to support your claims of "a-holes in Ontario" being PC SJWs?
The person who posts using AWMDRF and previously AWMDRS has publicly and privately harassed Ontario runners to an obsessive degree, trying unsuccessfully to get people fired without cause while using a fake name.
It goes well beyond being sad and pathetic, it is deeply concerning. -
The complete normalization of testosterone levels in a Y Chromosome Hermaphrodite can be achieved via the surgical removal of his endogenous testes.
By using testosterone lowering medications, the cheater can play with the numbers. Bring them below the 5 nmol/L, get tested. Then go back up again to 20 nmol/L and compete.
Don't want the surgery route, then you get the f--- out of the sport.
Women rights always.
No men in womens sports. Not on my watch.
#NeverSemenya #NeverPC -
dunes runner wrote:
NeverAWMDRF wrote:
The new IAAF rules states that "Yes, A Secret Man", and all others like him, must lower their testosterone levels to below 5 nmol/L
Technically just being under 5 nmol/L is NOT normal. The normal level for testosterone in a woman is between 0.12 to 1.79 nmol/L.
Below 5 is something, but not enough. The standard should be below 2, and not only limit testosterone.
Anyone who has ANY uniquely male characteristics advantages should not be allowed in women's events, for example anyone with non female chromosomes, and anyone who has or has had undescended testes should not be allowed.
not having a period and not having to worry about 9month reproductive breaks is a major advantage, Caster could biologically parent a child and win a gold the same week, the women she is competing against - good luck....
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/20/article-2729495-20A6DBFE00000578-196_634x405.jpg -
NeverAWMDRF wrote:
The complete normalization of testosterone levels in a Y Chromosome Hermaphrodite can be achieved via the surgical removal of his endogenous testes.
In lieu of banning all non females completely, this is a better option than temporary reductions.
By using testosterone lowering medications, the cheater can play with the numbers. Bring them below the 5 nmol/L, get tested. Then go back up again to 20 nmol/L and compete.
Exactly, which Semenya has already done. Plus he's way above 20. -
Lavamp wrote:
oharrier wrote:
NeverAWMDRF wrote:
The PC SJW’s are the a-holes in Ontario who disingenuously show support for those cheating Y Chromosome Hermaphrodites. In the process showing lack of support for one of their very own people - the (should have been) Olympic champion Melissa Bishop of Ontario.
What is a 'politically correct social justice warrior (PC SJW)’?
Someone who acts offended on behalf of minorities. An act of clearly disingenuous nature.
So why are they doing this?
Is it because they have minorities as relatives? No.
Is it because they have minorities as friends? No.
Is it because they coaches minorities? No.
They do it to raise their status among that (pathetic) liberal community. So that those rather sad hypocritical individuals will give each other a pat on the back and that will make him feel good about themselves and their miserable lives.
#NeverPC #NeverSemenya
I'm aware of what the term means, but do you actually have anything to support your claims of "a-holes in Ontario" being PC SJWs?
The person who posts using AWMDRF and previously AWMDRS has publicly and privately harassed Ontario runners to an obsessive degree, trying unsuccessfully to get people fired without cause while using a fake name.
It goes well beyond being sad and pathetic, it is deeply concerning.
That's pathetic, and psychotic. Not surprised given the posts on this thread. -
March 26, 2019 is the day these Y Chromosome Hermaphrodites are finally kicked out of the sport. I have got my champagne ready:
https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Media_Release_Semenya_ASA_IAAF_closing.pdf -
I don't understand why they need to take so long to get rid of this cheater. Case post poned until the end of April:
https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Media_Release_Semenya_ASA_IAAF_21.03.pdf
