Harvard-Westlake, which has campuses in Studio City and Beverly Crest, was hit particularly hard, with 30 students coming down with whooping cough since November, according to the Hollywood Reporter.
The epidemic, which began on Nov. 16, had only reached 23 cases on Valentine’s Day, by Harvard-Westlake’s own prior parental communications. This means the count grew notably higher, as a percentage of the whole, in the following eight days.
Of about 1,600 students attend Harvard-Westlake, where tuition is close to $40,000 a year, only 18 opted out of vaccinations for medical reasons. None of the 30 students who contracted whooping cough were not vaccinated.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019/02/27/whooping-cough-harvard-westlake/
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BREAKING: Literally None of the 30 Youths who contracted Whooping Cough in Los Angeles county were Not Vaccinated
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That's why I have never received a flu shot.
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71% chance. So what.
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Just call me Mr. Double Negative wrote:
None of the 30 students who contracted whooping cough were not vaccinated.
Ugh this is EXACTLY why it's important to vaccinate. The whole purpose of herd immunity is to protect the fraction of people that the vaccine doesn't work on :( -
David S wrote:
Ugh this is EXACTLY why it's important to vaccinate. The whole purpose of herd immunity is to protect the fraction of people that the vaccine doesn't work on :(
What you said makes no sense. -
Put on your thinking cap. wrote:
David S wrote:
Ugh this is EXACTLY why it's important to vaccinate. The whole purpose of herd immunity is to protect the fraction of people that the vaccine doesn't work on :(
What you said makes no sense.
Yes it does. 10 people live in a community with one the vaccine will not work on. If all 10 get vaccinated that one person has the fact that the vaccine works on the other to help protect them from getting since they will not contract it. -
Whooping cough vaccine is not 100% effective. It's 70% effective in the first year and only 40% effective four years after your latest booster. Measles vaccine, for example, is 97% effective. Believe in science, get the vaccination.
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wow an edgy letsrunner claiming that vaccines dont work. youre either an 8/10 troll or just really really stupid
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really wrote:
wow an edgy letsrunner claiming that vaccines dont work. youre either an 8/10 troll or just really really stupid
He’s highlighting a case of bad English. Try to keep up. -
Runtothelight wrote:
Whooping cough vaccine is not 100% effective. It's 70% effective in the first year and only 40% effective four years after your latest booster. Measles vaccine, for example, is 97% effective. Believe in science, get the vaccination.
You could believe in the science and choose not to get a vaccine. -
really wrote:
wow an edgy letsrunner claiming that vaccines dont work. youre either an 8/10 troll or just really really stupid
How is your autism going? -
Put on your thinking cap. wrote:
David S wrote:
Ugh this is EXACTLY why it's important to vaccinate. The whole purpose of herd immunity is to protect the fraction of people that the vaccine doesn't work on :(
What you said makes no sense.
To you. -
Think boy think wrote:
Put on your thinking cap. wrote:
David S wrote:
Ugh this is EXACTLY why it's important to vaccinate. The whole purpose of herd immunity is to protect the fraction of people that the vaccine doesn't work on :(
What you said makes no sense.
Yes it does. 10 people live in a community with one the vaccine will not work on. If all 10 get vaccinated that one person has the fact that the vaccine works on the other to help protect them from getting since they will not contract it.
You sound really smart. Can you send me your number so I can receive other good health advice from you? -
Make it a condition of public school enrollment with no exceptions, make it a condition of employment, make it a condition for voter registration. You can see that idiots don't understand herd immunity.
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Of about 1,600 students attend Harvard-Westlake, where tuition is close to $40,000 a year, only 18 opted out of vaccinations for medical reasons. None of the 30 students who contracted whooping cough were not vaccinated.
What percentage of the 1582 have autism? -
Put on your thinking cap. wrote:
David S wrote:
Ugh this is EXACTLY why it's important to vaccinate. The whole purpose of herd immunity is to protect the fraction of people that the vaccine doesn't work on :(
What you said makes no sense.
World I (reality):
1582 vaccinated people, 30 catch whooping cough anyway.
18 unvaccinated people, 0 catch whooping cough.
World II (100% vax world):
1582 vaccinated people, 30 catch whooping cough anyway.
Seems like there is little difference to the herd. -
Math whiz wrote:
Put on your thinking cap. wrote:
David S wrote:
Ugh this is EXACTLY why it's important to vaccinate. The whole purpose of herd immunity is to protect the fraction of people that the vaccine doesn't work on :(
What you said makes no sense.
World I (reality):
1582 vaccinated people, 30 catch whooping cough anyway.
18 unvaccinated people, 0 catch whooping cough.
World II (100% vax world):
1582 vaccinated people, 30 catch whooping cough anyway.
Seems like there is little difference to the herd.
Who did they catch it from? Does pertussis have another reservoir or is it just present in the environment? -
You are an idiot. Herd vaccine means everyone gets vaccinated. Over time, the disease disappears because most people are immune. Your example only has the students getting vaccinated even though there are hundreds of millions of people in the US and 500,000 unvaccinated illegals walking around California.
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Here we had almost 99% vaxxers (1582/1600), and yet the herd was not protected from itself.
First some history:
The concept of “herd immunity” first materialized in the 1930s, when Johns Hopkins University’s Arthur Hedrich discovered that, after 55% of Baltimore’s population acquired measles (and thus immunity to measles), the rest of the population, or “herd,” became protected. This concept provides today’s rationale for insisting that everyone be vaccinated.
In November 1966, in announcing a mass vaccination program for measles that would exceed the 55% level reached in Baltimore, the U.S. Public Health Service confidently announced that “Effective use of these vaccines during the coming winter and spring should insure the eradication of measles from the United States in 1967.”
When measles failed to be eradicated, public health experts decided that a 70% or 75% vaccination rate would secure herd immunity. When that proved wrong, the magic number rose to 80%, 83%, 85%, and then it became 90%, according to a 2001 Health Services Research report. Later health experts commonly cited 95%.
But that too was insufficient — measles outbreaks occur even when the vaccinated population exceeds 95%, leading some to say a 98% or 99% vaccination rate is needed to protect the remaining 1% or 2% of the herd. But even that may fall short, since outbreaks occur in fully vaccinated populations.
“The target would be to have 100% of the population vaccinated,” Dr. Gregory Taylor of the Public Health Agency of Canada recently told CBC, voicing an increasingly common perspective among public health professionals. (At that point, the balance of the herd that would be "protected" through mass vaccination would be in fact 0.)
But even vaccinating 100% of the population wouldn’t be enough, say scientists at the Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group, because the measles vaccine is a dud with some people, offering no protection at all, and its effectiveness wanes with others, even if they get boosters.
In fact, herd immunity — so elusive today — fully existed prior to the vaccine’s introduction. Virtually 100% of the population then contracted measles, typically as children, giving everyone lifelong immunity — and future mothers the means to protect their offspring. In mass vaccinating us, scientists of the 1960s didn’t realize that infecting us with the measles vaccine — a weak version of the natural measles virus — would give us a weak version of the defenses our bodies develop to the real thing.
The measles vaccine works as planned with only 25% of the population. The Public Health Service considered measles generally benign in the pre-vaccine era. Complications are infrequent and, with adequate medical care, fatality is rare. Up to half of today’s measles cases involve adults. Unlike childhood measles, adult measles is dangerous: 25% of cases require hospitalization.
As with any garbage in-garbage out type of theory, the expectations of the herd-immunity theory are bound to fail in the real world. -
Pertussis is highly contagious. The majority of the kids at the school would have contracted it had they not been vaccinated. Only 30 did.
