Leading Sprinter/Hurdler in NCAA Division 2 was a man who NOW IDENTIFIES as a Woman.

no problemo wrote:

the left wants this? I thought the left was also trying to feminize men, so this should all even out in a few years, no?

I've long wondered about Lolo, her stick figure and claims of lifelong virginity.

Just sayin.

LetsRun.com wrote:

I just can't wait until a 7 foot tall transgender woman does this in basetball.

Then it's all over.

I used to think it was ok to let them compete after a year of hormones but it really varies a lot by every sport. I mean in some sports, the extra bone mass may not be a help but in others, its huge.

Maybe the only option is to say you can compete in non competitive sports but HS, NCAA and pro are out of bounds?

what? you mean to tell me that say brock lesnar, if he goes trangender, can't compete as a woman in mma?

how about muhammad ali, you're going to say a guy like that can't be transgender and do his sport?

you're way off base with today's reality. pal.

LetsRun.com wrote:

I just can't wait until a 7 foot tall transgender woman does this in basetball.

Then it's all over.

A lot of trans people are murdered, and many more face a lot of life difficulty, because of the exact type of commentary you encourage on this thread and many others like it. In fact, this exact post prompted someone to target a trans person and post them on the thread.

to say things like “it’s all over” as if trans people are causing all of society to explode, is very irresponsible language, especially as the cult leader of the site who many people here look up to. By irresponsible language I mean language that urges others to do kill or attack trans people, or mock trans people. Many trans people suffer a lot from this social treatment.

No, you don’t need to watch every word, and no, all your points shouldn’t be dismissed. But you and your site should be condemned for this particular kind of inflammatory language and self-serving bigotry promotion

Where is your compassion? We are all bound by our natural brain wiring. Whether you are born male and are wired to be female or whether you are born male and are wired to be bigot, both should be equally accepted. Transgenders are negatively impacting females in sports and bigots are negatively impacting transgenders.

LoneStarXC wrote:

As a woman, I honestly find this terrifying. No matter how Telfer “identifies”, the fact is that, in athletics, men have an an advantage over women, in terms of bone structure, muscle, and VO2. If this trend of biological males competing as females is allowed to continue, it will kill off women’s sports.

+1

It's not being a bigot or hate speech, it is a cold hard fact that males in the realm of athletics are stronger and faster then women. Even with the "gap year" to change testosterone levels. How would you feel if a top to mid tier male HS 800 runner changed their gender and snapped Caster Semanya's amazing streak of 800 titles even though he/she has not put in all the work win that race, to earn that medal, or to set that record. This should not be allowed what so ever.

LGBT...

It’s about time that the “L” start pushing back against the “T”.

This was bound to happen once Society rejected historical norms and declared that the individual can define his/her self. When you’ve made yourself God, this is the result.

zxcvzxcv wrote:

Well, if you can identify as me with your stalker's inability to think up some other handle, then maybe you can also identify with my actual views, because you are not expressing mine at all.

No idea what you are talking about??? I always use as my handle zxczxc/czzcx/vzxczxc/czxczxc. It's quick and easy. No idea who you are...

DougC wrote:

LGBT...

It’s about time that the “L” start pushing back against the “T”.

This was bound to happen once Society rejected historical norms and declared that the individual can define his/her self. When you’ve made yourself God, this is the result.

HEy, watch the micro-aggressions, bro!

Wasn't it NJ or NY that just passed a bill saying its ok to print drivers licenses without the birth sex or maybe it was birth certs. Like how can a kid that's just born self - identify. Sorry but this is total crap.

Where did anyone threaten to "kill or harm" trans people. The comments only talk about banning them from competing as females as it is unfair to the biological females.

If people want me to believe science is real when it comes to climate change (I think it is) I also expect people to believe science is real when it comes to developmental biology.

In no way should opposition to people who are biological males competing against biological females be misconstrued as aggression towards transgendered people. They simply have an unfair advantage based upon biological factors. No amount of hormone therapy is going to change bone structure, etc. that was developed in a persons formative years. I coach girls soccer. A girl is about six times more likely to tear an ACL than their male counterpart. A transitioned individual would face no such obstacles. While we can accept the individual and the psychology of a trans person, a line must be drawn at the biology as it regards fair play in sports.

LoneStarXC wrote:

As a woman, I honestly find this terrifying. No matter how Telfer “identifies”, the fact is that, in athletics, men have an an advantage over women, in terms of bone structure, muscle, and VO2. If this trend of biological males competing as females is allowed to continue, it will kill off women’s sports.

A trans woman competing in Division 2 track and field "terrifies" you? Get a grip lady. Live one week of her life and you'll be begging to return to your little bubble of screaming about things online.

Doctor wrote:

LoneStarXC wrote:

As a woman, I honestly find this terrifying. No matter how Telfer “identifies”, the fact is that, in athletics, men have an an advantage over women, in terms of bone structure, muscle, and VO2. If this trend of biological males competing as females is allowed to continue, it will kill off women’s sports.

A trans woman competing in Division 2 track and field "terrifies" you? Get a grip lady. Live one week of her life and you'll be begging to return to your little bubble of screaming about things online.

Apparently @ Doctor, you missed the point completely. This post is not about bashing transgenders as a people. We love them and respect them though we may not agree with their sexual identity choices. That said, the outcry here is towards those who make sports' rules concerning those allowed to compete in each category. Transgender people cannot deny 90% of the times their group tends to have advantage over female-born females in most sports. The solution is to form a third group or even three more groups of identities. One for male-to-female transgender, one for female-to-male transgender and the third group for intersex athletes. That way athletes with similar biological make up can compete against each other without any unfair advantage.

There is a reason we have age group and gender competition in sports. We all recognize there are advantages to being a 21 year old man over a 12 year old boy. A man might feel like he is 12, but that doesn't mean he can compete in that age group.

A person might identify as a different gender and I will respect them as a person but that doesn't mean they don't have an advantage. No one wants a transgender person hurt in any way, but we can't deny reality. We need to either respect women's athletics or do away with it. This isn't about equal rights for transgender athletes, it's about equal rights for all women athletes.

no problemo wrote:

the left wants this? I thought the left was also trying to feminize men, so this should all even out in a few years, no?

The left wants this? I'm pretty left and I think his is bulls--t. It seems people that support this are those who have no concept of competitive sports.

This is exactly what I meant. I’m not trying to bash Telfer, my point is just that by allowing male-to-female transgender people to compete in the women’s category, is giving a significant disadvantage to biological females. That’s why we have separate gender categories in the first place. This is a complicated issue, and I think that the easiest thing to do would be to introduce a third category.

Clearly made for running and not thinking?

Think for yourself for yourself for once. The narrative is so 2018. Drop it.