Off events, non-running events, any other time someone knows of this has happened? Stunned by Athing Mu's 1:23.
Off events, non-running events, any other time someone knows of this has happened? Stunned by Athing Mu's 1:23.
Didn’t Mary decker have an indoor 800 WR
Jim Ryun or Gerry Lindgren?
Quincyschmidt wrote:
Jim Ryun or Gerry Lindgren?
Yes, Jim Ryun's 3:55 was a hs and AR in 1965. He went on to break his own AR a few times after high school.
Drainthefecesswamp wrote:
Quincyschmidt wrote:
Jim Ryun or Gerry Lindgren?
Yes, Jim Ryun's 3:55 was a hs and AR in 1965. He went on to break his own AR a few times after high school.
Yeah, I was gonna drop the, "um, ever heard of Jim Ryun?" line, but wasn't 100% sure his time was an AR. Interestingly, it appears that it was, but just barely, by 0.1 seconds.
OF course even more impressive, he set WR's the very next year, at 19, in the mile (dropping 4 seconds off his HSR/AR time from the previous year) and 880yds.
Mondo Duplantis pole vault last year
Hardloper wrote:
Mondo Duplantis pole vault last year
Ugh, it is still so annoying that he has national records in two different countries from one jump.
Houston McTear sprinted 9.0 for 100 yards in HS which tied for the fastest ever run. It was hand-timed so it doesn't count for anything even though all the other 100 yard races were hand-timed as well.
Drainthefecesswamp wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Mondo Duplantis pole vault last year
Ugh, it is still so annoying that he has national records in two different countries from one jump.
agree. If you choose to compete for another country, you shouldn't get the AR
epicTCK wrote:
Drainthefecesswamp wrote:
Ugh, it is still so annoying that he has national records in two different countries from one jump.
agree. If you choose to compete for another country, you shouldn't get the AR
Why not? Dual citizenship is not illegal. If he competed for the USA, should his 6.05 not be a Swedish record? Why?
As a follow up, Ryun's 3:55.3 was in the U.S. national championships, and he beat the previous year's Olympic gold and silver medalists in that race. Peter Snell, the OG champion, was also the world record holder in the mile.
Sloppy meathole wrote:
epicTCK wrote:
agree. If you choose to compete for another country, you shouldn't get the AR
Why not? Dual citizenship is not illegal. If he competed for the USA, should his 6.05 not be a Swedish record? Why?
Whatever country your "kit" is representing when competing should be where the record gets applied. If there is no "kit" such as competing in the US high school system, the record should go to the country of birth unless citizenship has already been decided. Then at 18 the nationality (different than citizenship) can be decided (if more than one). The US allows dual nationality, but in the US you can't be a citizen of more than one country. I don't think junior athletes should be subjected to the same "waiting period" if they change nationality/citizenship after competing for one country prior to being of Senior competition age (though I am uncertain if they are).
inthepdx wrote:
The US allows dual nationality, but in the US you can't be a citizen of more than one country.
What does this mean?! Two contradictory statements
I'm a US/Canadian citizen. True or not true?
Sloppy meathole wrote:
inthepdx wrote:
The US allows dual nationality, but in the US you can't be a citizen of more than one country.
What does this mean?! Two contradictory statements
I'm a US/Canadian citizen. True or not true?
So, you're double stupid?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C_TfBbR6L0Mhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_uujKuJMIBonnie Blair
Sloppy meathole wrote:
epicTCK wrote:
agree. If you choose to compete for another country, you shouldn't get the AR
Why not? Dual citizenship is not illegal. If he competed for the USA, should his 6.05 not be a Swedish record? Why?
IAAF only allows you to compete for a single country, so I think national records should only be for the country you represent. What if he had triple citizenship, quadruple citizenship? Some countries don't have limits on their citizens holding citizenship in multiple countries, where does it stop?
Some will argue "but he is the best 'american,' so should have the american record too." By that standard, an athlete could become a naturalized citizen of another country and should be able to retroactively get their national record. This isn't allowed, though.
Somebody with a great mark could in theory start buying citizenship at many countries and suddenly have a whole slew of national records.
In short, I believe people should only be able to represent one country at a time and the IAAF does as well, so a national record should only be for the country you represent.
The interpretation of USATF rule that allowed Mondo and 2004 Lagat to get American records has been expressly changed.
From now on, American records can only be set by athletes who have current standing to compete for US national teams.
Mary Decker WR indoor 800m 2:01.8 at age 15.
Drainthefecesswamp wrote:
What if he had triple citizenship, quadruple citizenship? Some countries don't have limits on their citizens holding citizenship in multiple countries, where does it stop?
I'm 99% sure I don't give a damn.
Michael Phelps broke the world record in the 200-meter butterfly when he was 15 years old.