Who said cross country is dead in Europe? More than 8,000 have entered 2019 English xc champs

rojo, it's deceptive because it covers U-15 as well. The 8000 are over the following 10 race

Timetable
11.00am: Under-17 women – 5km
11.25am: Under-15 boys – 4km
11.45am: Under-13 girls – 3km
12.05pm: Under-17 men – 6km
12.30pm: Under-13 boys – 3km
12.45pm: Under-15 girls – 4km
1.05pm: Junior women – 6km
1.35pm: Senior women – 8km
2.20pm: Junior men – 10km
3.00pm: Senior men – 12km

Basically, you need to add up all the Foot Locker Regionals and NXN Regionals + the State high school meets since there is no high school cross country in the UK. On top of that you need to add all the NCAA Regional Championships since there is no university cross country either in the UK.

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GR said: since there is no high school cross country in the UK

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On top of that you need to add all the NCAA Regional Championships since there is no university cross country either in the UK.

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here is the result of the 2019 championships which absolutely definitely were not held at Bicton College, near Budleigh Salterton in Devon on 2 Feb 2019 because, like, "there is no university cross country either in the UK."

http://dbmaxresults.co.uk/results.aspx?CId=16421&RId=2241

cheers.

I don't think anyone has said cross country is dead in Europe. Do you think someone has claimed that? Because the evidence has never suggested that's the case.

Simple, there's a far better club system in the UK to engage everyday runners in competing. The population density in the UK probably helps, as does the sporting landscape there that doesn't have pro ball sports on the tele other than footy. It's probably a minority of high school and college xc runners in the US who know that USA Club Cross exists. Our infrastructure and its disjointed nature comparatively suck. Without googling, what are the USATF clubs in Baltimore that engage open and masters runners?

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rojo wrote:

And that number is down from more than 9k last year. For comparison's sake, just 422 people ran in all the various races at the 2019 USA XC Champs.

From Fastrunning: "This year’s championships is the 131st edition of the senior men’s event, while the senior women race the for the 86th time, with 8027 runners entered across the 10 races. The figure is down on last year’s record figure of 9565 at Parliament Hill."

I guess it's just dead for the pros who largely appear to be afraid to race the Africans when they know they a) will get crushed and b) not make much money.

https://www.fastrunning.com/cross-country/englands-runners-to-battle-for-national-cross-country-honours/23537

Hell, tiny Scotland, population of 5.3 million, is crushing the US in terms of entrants as they have nearly 1000 (970).

https://www.fastrunning.com/events-and-races/events-news/chase-is-on-for-scottish-cross-country-glory/23594

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It's Larry Rawson. He's the only person to say that.

Meanwhile UK Athletics have a policy of not sending Seniorteams to Worlds

You're correct that there is no high school cross country in the uk.

Unless you count the county schools champs, the English schools champs, the Scottish schools champs and the Welsh schools champs. ANd dont forget the the district champs for the various age groups. And then there's also the home nations internationals.

Apart from that there's nothing.

Are there qualifying standards, or can any hobbyjogger run in the Junior/Senior races?

Professional XC races are held everywhere in Europe, especially in Spain, Italy, and the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9S6NEIUCF46jnsmXAiuywA

In the US, are there are hardly any races like this anymore. Besides high school and college races, hardly any XC pro races exist.

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notintheuk wrote:

Are there qualifying standards, or can any hobbyjogger run in the Junior/Senior races?

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GR wrote:

rojo, it's deceptive because it covers U-15 as well. The 8000 are over the following 10 race

Timetable
11.00am: Under-17 women – 5km
11.25am: Under-15 boys – 4km
11.45am: Under-13 girls – 3km
12.05pm: Under-17 men – 6km
12.30pm: Under-13 boys – 3km
12.45pm: Under-15 girls – 4km
1.05pm: Junior women – 6km
1.35pm: Senior women – 8km
2.20pm: Junior men – 10km
3.00pm: Senior men – 12km

Basically, you need to add up all the Foot Locker Regionals and NXN Regionals + the State high school meets since there is no high school cross country in the UK. On top of that you need to add all the NCAA Regional Championships since there is no university cross country either in the UK.

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Probably helps that it's a small country in terms of geography and traveling to the meet doesn't require spending a ridiculous amount on airline fares and for many it doesn't require nearly as much time spent on travel. Going from Boston or Denver to Spokane or Tally requires a bit more than just getting on the train to head up the afternoon before the race.

I do think it's worth mentioning that at Club XC in Spokane in December there were 1229 total finishers in the six races. Obviously this pales in comparison to England's 8000 (and I didn't see masters listed on the schedule in England), but it might be closer to comparing apples to apples as I assume the vibrant club system is well represented at the English Championships. Also, I didn't bother to do the math, but that same December day in Reno there were hundreds of juniors competing as well. I don't know if Scotland or England, etc. have multiple "national championships" (i.e. Club XC Nationals in December and US Nationals in February) like the US does, but I thought this was worth consideration as comparisons are thrown about.

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Thanks, Rizzo. wrote:

Probably helps that it's a small country in terms of geography and traveling to the meet doesn't require spending a ridiculous amount on airline fares and for many it doesn't require nearly as much time spent on travel. Going from Boston or Denver to Spokane or Tally requires a bit more than just getting on the train to head up the afternoon before the race.

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Apples wrote:

I do think it's worth mentioning that at Club XC in Spokane in December there were 1229 total finishers in the six races. Obviously this pales in comparison to England's 8000 (and I didn't see masters listed on the schedule in England), but it might be closer to comparing apples to apples as I assume the vibrant club system is well represented at the English Championships. Also, I didn't bother to do the math, but that same December day in Reno there were hundreds of juniors competing as well. I don't know if Scotland or England, etc. have multiple "national championships" (i.e. Club XC Nationals in December and US Nationals in February) like the US does, but I thought this was worth consideration as comparisons are thrown about.

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GR wrote:

rojo, it's deceptive because it covers U-15 as well. The 8000 are over the following 10 race

Timetable
11.00am: Under-17 women – 5km
11.25am: Under-15 boys – 4km
11.45am: Under-13 girls – 3km
12.05pm: Under-17 men – 6km
12.30pm: Under-13 boys – 3km
12.45pm: Under-15 girls – 4km
1.05pm: Junior women – 6km
1.35pm: Senior women – 8km
2.20pm: Junior men – 10km
3.00pm: Senior men – 12km

Basically, you need to add up all the Foot Locker Regionals and NXN Regionals + the State high school meets since there is no high school cross country in the UK. On top of that you need to add all the NCAA Regional Championships since there is no university cross country either in the UK.

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How many UK Parkrunners ? Must be 10s of thousands every single week. And the vast majority of them are "cross country"