Gravy wrote:
Amazon's shipping has been pretty sketchy lately, and I'm not about to join their Prime club. None of the other options seem better though.
Just jank 'em. Order, get your schwag delivered, and then tell them you don't have it. They'll reverse the charge no questions asks. It's how I feel better about the world's most monolithic company.
Angry Willy wrote:
Yes, I could get screwed by local mom and pop business ... over priced and limited supply. Mom and pop ain't doing me no favors.
Wait until you need that one $2 part to fix something important like your toilet but all the local mom and pop shops are gone. Then you can wait for the drone to land at your front door and hope the part is the one you need.
jet.com
dunes runner wrote:
P.S. Prime sucks.
I've never used it and Amazon is obnoxious the way they keep pushing it.
Letsrun expert in a nutshell there folks.
Runningwarehouse.com is just as good or better for running gear.
Nope wrote:
dunes runner wrote:
P.S. Prime sucks.
I've never used it and Amazon is obnoxious the way they keep pushing it.
Letsrun expert in a nutshell there folks.
Exactly! Either talking about something they know nothing about - "I've never used it" - or misrepresenting the way something is - " Amazon is obnoxious the way they keep pushing it." I'm on Amazon quite a bit, but dont have Prime. I'm aware that they "push it" quite regularly, but nothing obnoxious. But then, I'm not the sensitive snowflake that Dunesy is.
A unionized Amazon?
The problem is that they're so big and powerful and go unchecked. I'm sure tons of you have heard the stories about them cutting prices and taking on deficits to drive mom & pop shops out of business and then raising their prices back up. They can do this all over the place because they're super profitable overall. So we're left with Amazon dominating the market and you know what, they are super convenient. That doesn't mean that we can't ask them to be more humane. It would be great if they committed to paying workers more, providing benefits across the board, and sharing their profits outside of the very top in the company. At least having a Union would let workers open up the books and see where wasted money might be going. It would be great to see a company like Amazon do everything it can to do the best by the people working for them. The problem is they just want to get as much of the market as they can while paying people as little as possible. It took a ton of pressure to get them to pay $15. You're kidding yourself if you don't think they could pay more and that they could pay a lot more and not raise prices a cent.
prime is the best deal i have seen for many years. that is where we buy. sometimes there are better prices on Walmart, ... but no one's service matches amazon customer service and many videos are free. when you dial on the phone or send a reply the response is quick. i brought my wife a bike on jet.com last summer. it was ~$50 cheaper than the same bike on amazon. i live in washington state. walmart sent me a notice that the bike was delivered in arizona (jet.com is a walmart's online vendor). i tried to call them but gave up and instead used the chat system. they asked for my tracking number and they said it was invalid. (i was reading it right off the email). then i told them of the email i received. and eventually after a lot of going back and forth they ordered a refund. two days later the bike shows up. back i go to chat. they looked up the tracking numver and again said it was invalid. i told them i had gotten a refund and the bike also. they put me on chat hold for about 3 minutes, then came back and said i should do nothing. i sold the bike on craig's list a few months later ( my wife has epilepsy and her meds cause serious balance issues.)
on amazon we purchased a 65" tv ~1.5 years ago. my wife and i are both well beond 65. amazon guarantees free setup of a large screen tv by's 2 delivery "specialists" so that if they cannot get it working they take it back. the delivery guy knocked, he was by himself, with a semi about 50 yards from my driveway (it is a gated community). i felt bad for him as he did not have a dolly i so helped him carry it to my door. when i opened the door he stated that his company does not allow him to enter private premises i told him about amazon's committment (of which he knew nothing). he would not enter the house.my wife an i set it up, not too heavy , maybe 40 lbs but my wife also has osteoporosis. i thought about it and called amazon, not really to complain but to inform. Turns out the shipping company had farmed out the order to another shipper but neither i nor amazon knew that when i called. amazon immediately gave me a $150 credit and told me to call a local contractor of my choice who would set it up.. i told them it was already working and everything was fine. my phone started ringing wthin 30 minutes. all were from the amazon assigned shipper who left me voice mail informing me that it had been subcontracted and how sorry they were i received may 4 calls (one from the shipping company VP) none of which i answered. then a $75 amazon credit showed up in my email provided by the shipper. now try to beat that for customer service. i hope walmart improves and they probably will but it will be tough to beat amazon. shipping is a big big issue.
NewtotheSouthSide wrote:
A unionized Amazon?
The problem is that they're so big and powerful and go unchecked. I'm sure tons of you have heard the stories about them cutting prices and taking on deficits to drive mom & pop shops out of business and then raising their prices back up. They can do this all over the place because they're super profitable overall. So we're left with Amazon dominating the market and you know what, they are super convenient. That doesn't mean that we can't ask them to be more humane. It would be great if they committed to paying workers more, providing benefits across the board, and sharing their profits outside of the very top in the company. At least having a Union would let workers open up the books and see where wasted money might be going. It would be great to see a company like Amazon do everything it can to do the best by the people working for them. The problem is they just want to get as much of the market as they can while paying people as little as possible. It took a ton of pressure to get them to pay $15. You're kidding yourself if you don't think they could pay more and that they could pay a lot more and not raise prices a cent.
What you, and many others, fail to acknowledge is that employment is at will for employee and employer. Amazon is not chaining people to their desks. They are in a competitive market for talent and they pay market rate.
If you, as an Amazon employee, don't like the working conditions, pay, etc. simply quit. Go work for the better employer. That's true from an entry level job all the way to the C suite.
All of these arguments re: Amazon, WalMart, Nike, [insert 'Big' company here], etc make zero sense to me given indentured servitude was outlawed from this country about 150 years ago.
The other argument, re: monopoly, at least has a scintilla of reason to it. But, then again, competitors are just a Google search and a click away. I choose to buy from Amazon because it's easy and their selection, service and prices are excellent. If/when that no longer becomes the case, I'll shop elsewhere.
Case in point, I wanted to buy a Google Home product. Searched on Amazon. They didn't carry it. Clearly, they don't want to distribute anything that competes with their Echo, etc. products. So be it. I bought my Google Home and Minis from Google directly. No problem.
The argument that unionizing will open the books and uncover where wasted money is going makes no sense either. Are you saying that unions are going to somehow manage Amazon better than Amazon execs? If so, I beg to differ. Amazon is one of the best managed tech companies in existence.
Note: I don't work for Amazon, but I buy stuff from them all the time.
>> I choose to buy from Amazon because it's easy and their selection, service and prices are excellent. If/when that no longer becomes the case, I'll shop elsewhere.
There wont be no elsewhere then.
Nope wrote:
dunes runner wrote:
P.S. Prime sucks.
I've never used it and Amazon is obnoxious the way they keep pushing it.
Letsrun expert in a nutshell there folks.
He's not wrong though. I've also never used it and trust me, it sucks.
I use Amazon for most stuff. It's easy to search, order, I have prime for free shipping. If there is a problem they refund no questions asked. I had a problem with a porch pirate last summer. They shipped free replacement items right away. The only thing I don't like is sometimes free two day prime shipping takes four or five days. You also have to be mindful that the stuff your ordering is eligible for prime shipping. You don't want to order a Halloween costume in the middle of October and find out it's on a boat from China getting here in November.
Walmart's good if you need something right away, you can do in store pick up and get it within a couple hours. I use Walmart when I need something soon and don't want to risk my free two day prime shipping will take four days. Prices are comparable but the selection isn't as good as Amazon. Their search doesn't work as well as Amazon and the app frequently crashes on my phone.
You can find some amazing deals on eBay. It's usually good to check there if you have time. Not as easy to search and order as it is on Amazon.
.. wrote:
>> I choose to buy from Amazon because it's easy and their selection, service and prices are excellent. If/when that no longer becomes the case, I'll shop elsewhere.
There wont be no elsewhere then.
That's what they used to say about us.
@Nope wrote:
I'm on Amazon quite a bit, but dont have Prime.
I'm aware that they "push it" quite regularly, but nothing obnoxious.
But then, I'm not the sensitive snowflake that Dunesy is.
Which is why you have to whine, cry and complain about someone who's much more intelligent than you are.
Because you're not a snowflake. Is that it.
dunes runner wrote:
Ebay is #1 for me, quite a bit better than Amazon.
The 90's called....
macdaddy wrote:
dunes runner wrote:
Ebay is #1 for me, quite a bit better than Amazon.
The 90's called....
..they want their joke back,
Scallywag wrote:
Nope wrote:
Letsrun expert in a nutshell there folks.
He's not wrong though. I've also never used it and trust me, it sucks.
What do you mean you've 'used' it? How does one 'use' Prime?
I mean, it's primarily a subscription service for which subscribers receive free two-day shipping on a huge number of items an unlimited number of times. Do you mean that this free shipping is what sucks to use?
Sprinter Strider Jogger Spy wrote:
What do you mean you've 'used' it? How does one 'use' Prime?
I mean, it's primarily a subscription service for which subscribers receive free two-day shipping on a huge number of items an unlimited number of times. Do you mean that this free shipping is what sucks to use?
Now I see why some people use Prime - because they are stupid.
I have read all the responses and summarize them. NO
You have to be kidding me wrote:
NewtotheSouthSide wrote:
A unionized Amazon?
The problem is that they're so big and powerful and go unchecked. I'm sure tons of you have heard the stories about them cutting prices and taking on deficits to drive mom & pop shops out of business and then raising their prices back up. They can do this all over the place because they're super profitable overall. So we're left with Amazon dominating the market and you know what, they are super convenient. That doesn't mean that we can't ask them to be more humane. It would be great if they committed to paying workers more, providing benefits across the board, and sharing their profits outside of the very top in the company. At least having a Union would let workers open up the books and see where wasted money might be going. It would be great to see a company like Amazon do everything it can to do the best by the people working for them. The problem is they just want to get as much of the market as they can while paying people as little as possible. It took a ton of pressure to get them to pay $15. You're kidding yourself if you don't think they could pay more and that they could pay a lot more and not raise prices a cent.
What you, and many others, fail to acknowledge is that employment is at will for employee and employer. Amazon is not chaining people to their desks. They are in a competitive market for talent and they pay market rate.
If you, as an Amazon employee, don't like the working conditions, pay, etc. simply quit. Go work for the better employer. That's true from an entry level job all the way to the C suite.
All of these arguments re: Amazon, WalMart, Nike, [insert 'Big' company here], etc make zero sense to me given indentured servitude was outlawed from this country about 150 years ago.
The other argument, re: monopoly, at least has a scintilla of reason to it. But, then again, competitors are just a Google search and a click away. I choose to buy from Amazon because it's easy and their selection, service and prices are excellent. If/when that no longer becomes the case, I'll shop elsewhere.
Case in point, I wanted to buy a Google Home product. Searched on Amazon. They didn't carry it. Clearly, they don't want to distribute anything that competes with their Echo, etc. products. So be it. I bought my Google Home and Minis from Google directly. No problem.
The argument that unionizing will open the books and uncover where wasted money is going makes no sense either. Are you saying that unions are going to somehow manage Amazon better than Amazon execs? If so, I beg to differ. Amazon is one of the best managed tech companies in existence.
Note: I don't work for Amazon, but I buy stuff from them all the time.
I mean, two quick things:
#1- Workers have the right to form labor unions. It's American AF. If you don't like working conditions or pay, you can stay where you are and do something about it by forming a union. That's literally what a union is -- a group of coworkers coming together to address work conditions. It's not as simple as going and finding another job.
#2- We are living at a time when so many jobs exist at big corporations for low pay. You accept that they have to be for low pay. I say, yes, let workers open the books. Maybe, just maybe, there is room for less Exec pay at the top and money can be shared with the people that make the company run. And even if that isn't the case, you don't always create a union for money. There are plenty of non economic things workers could bargain for that could make their workplace happier.