Any High Schoolers going Sub 4 this season?

Katelyn Tuohy has the best shot. All of my friends think she is faster than the guys.

Girl Power wrote:

Katelyn Tuohy has the best shot. All of my friends think she is faster than the guys.

its ok, she will burn out like the rest of the girls and be a nobody in 3 years

Maton has already run 1:51.87 & 4:09.97 indoors...I believe that the fastest combined in the country (I could be wrong there).

Anyhow - provided he stays healthy, he's got a chance to go sub-4.

And to put it realistically, that's one chance in 20 - maybe. Dropping your mile PR by 7 seconds, when you're already fast, isn't easy - it'll need to be a perfect mix of competition, fitness, health, and weather - no surprise there.

I'd like to see him take down Granville's 23 year old record in the 800m myself.

4:01 will be tops this year.

Not even close. We got spoiled the last few years and fooled into the thought that it wasn't a big deal to break 4.

Not sure why half of your times are full miles, and half are 1600s...either way, we won't see a sub-4:00 this year. Closest guys are Foster, Dolan, Payamps, Rizzo, and Maton. Hasty proved last year that no matter your endurance, if you can't run under 1:52, you can't break 4:00. Not sure Foster's speed, but i'm assuming it's somewhere around there and he's a full 3 seconds ahead of the next returner in the mile. Dolan has gone 1:50 and 2:25, so he's got the speed. Payamps has gone 2:25 and he soundly beat Dolan and others at NB Grand Prix. Rizzo has gone 2:25 and is the Millrose champion. Finally, Maton has gone 1:50 and has been running good times on the West Coast this year. Zach Winter graduated in 2018 so I don't know why he's even on that list.

gahagand wrote:

Not sure why half of your times are full miles, and half are 1600s...

because its the same event

ric flair woo wrote:

gahagand wrote:

Not sure why half of your times are full miles, and half are 1600s...

because its the same event

Except you didn't convert any of those 1600s...the conversion is about 1.5 seconds, which is pretty significant when you're talking about times that are all within 4 seconds of each other. Makes Maton and Renfree look better than they are.

gahagand wrote:

ric flair woo wrote:

because its the same event

Except you didn't convert any of those 1600s...the conversion is about 1.5 seconds, which is pretty significant when you're talking about times that are all within 4 seconds of each other. Makes Maton and Renfree look better than they are.

bro its 1 effing second.....

the question was whether or not anyone can break 4. not a grammar police type pow -wow

with roughly 15 guys around 4:09 as of February, that offers a deep field of possibilities for someone to pop out and be around 4 in June. I believe Rizzo PRed by about 8 seconds at Millrose, so ya never know who may just have a great race at some point. whats amazing to me is how deep the talent is getting now, where guys can track each other every weekend on the net for motivation, and get together frequently at national meets to compete. This all translates over now to NCAA, where you no longer can even just qualify for indoor nationals without breaking 4 in the mile.

Cruz Culpepper?

I think he could be knocking on the door in the right race (arcadia for example).

your cousin marvin berry wrote:

Cruz Culpepper?

I think he could be knocking on the door in the right race (arcadia for example).

He just ran a 4:09 at Iowa State on Saturday

ric flair woo wrote:

gahagand wrote:

Except you didn't convert any of those 1600s...the conversion is about 1.5 seconds, which is pretty significant when you're talking about times that are all within 4 seconds of each other. Makes Maton and Renfree look better than they are.

bro its 1 effing second.....

the question was whether or not anyone can break 4. not a grammar police type pow -wow

Why we need to switch to the 1500m.

Why we need to switch to the 1500m.

Or better yet, drop the misfit 1600 meters...

Bring Back the Mile wrote:

Why we need to switch to the 1500m.

Or better yet, drop the misfit 1600 meters...

drop the 1500 and the 1600

just have it 1 mile

in Europe do you guys go "hey how many one and a half kilometers per gallon do I get on this car?"

no....you man up and ask how many miles to the gallon

I like the NCAA setup of mile indoor and 1500 outdoor. It allows the runners more time to separate.

ric flair woo wrote:

Bring Back the Mile wrote:

Or better yet, drop the misfit 1600 meters...

drop the 1500 and the 1600

just have it 1 mile

in Europe do you guys go "hey how many one and a half kilometers per gallon do I get on this car?"

no....you man up and ask how many miles to the gallon

Pretty sure they go by liters per kilometer.

what are you talking about? wrote:

ric flair woo wrote:

drop the 1500 and the 1600

just have it 1 mile

in Europe do you guys go "hey how many one and a half kilometers per gallon do I get on this car?"

no....you man up and ask how many miles to the gallon

Pretty sure they go by liters per kilometer.

lmao

ric flair woo wrote:

Bring Back the Mile wrote:

Or better yet, drop the misfit 1600 meters...

drop the 1500 and the 1600

just have it 1 mile

in Europe do you guys go "hey how many one and a half kilometers per gallon do I get on this car?"

no....you man up and ask how many miles to the gallon

No, it’s how many liters of fuel used per 100km traveled (L/100km).

The 1600 is just nice because it’s exactly 4 laps, but 1500 is the international competition standard.