Say ‘packed together’ again mother f**ker, I double dare you...
Say ‘packed together’ again mother f**ker, I double dare you...
shooo smooo wrote:
AhWhatTheCheese wrote:
The Forever Floatride Energy name is confusing. It isn't the actual Pebax Floatride, but it is a TPU. That said, pair the Forever Floatride Energy with the Floatride Run Fast for a killer 1-2 training combo. Both shoes are excellent.
I assume you have both with that recommendation, so I guess my question is does the "forever" have the same lack of lockdown in the upper the as the "run fast"
Because I am not impressed with the fit of the "run fast" it is sloppy. I mean even the Bostons don't have the beautiful lockdown of the Adios but they still have a decent fit
Also the "run fast" doesn't seem to have any special performance for me. Are you finding it anything special in the PR department?
I think maybe you could go half a size down. The fit of the upper is a bit roomier than other brands or fast shoes. I think the lockdown is much better than the Boston 6. The heel counter is better and the sides have more structure. I think you may just need to size down. The Boston 6 seems to run a lot smaller than the Run Fast. I would say the Forever fits bigger than the Run Fast also, but the upper itself doesn't feel sloppy.
As for PR's in the Run Fast, I haven't really raced a bunch in it. I use it for fast training. I think it is comparable to the Boston, but over 2 oz lighter, and more bouncy/cushioned overall. The forefoot seems to have more Floatride too. The Boston is kinda thin and lacking Boost in the forefoot where the ride us unremarkable. The Run Fast outsole is a tank also.
Got my size 13s in today. I think they will fit just fine on my size 14 feet. Definitely plenty of length, and I THINK with width will be fine. I would agree with anyone who says to order a half size smaller, if it is available.
That being said, man these feel great. Really looking forward to trying these out. Simple upper, lively, cushioned midsole, and actually has an outsole. Reebok may have a winner in here #waytooearlypredictions
And that is all while being light and only $100. If I wanted only one shoe for training, this would probably be the one. Light enough to do workouts, cushioned enough for long/easy days, great bouncy midsole feel, balance between soft and still stable, durable, temperature resistant, and good traction.
These sound promising although there is another shoe for $100 full outsole coverage and 9oz in the Brooks Launch 6.
It definitely has a nice pop to the forefoot and feels lighter than it is. And yes available in a 14 and wides
Man, these are great.
Btw, the “permanent insole” can be removed quite painlessly and subbed for something thinner, thicker, or just more customized. I wear a 14, but these in a 13 (they don’t offer a 14 #effyoureebokandadidas) combined with my own super-thin insole fit me perfectly.
Vector wrote:
These sound promising although there is another shoe for $100 full outsole coverage and 9oz in the Brooks Launch 6.
It definitely has a nice pop to the forefoot and feels lighter than it is. And yes available in a 14 and wides
In my opinion, the midsole is way better in the Reebok.
AhWhatTheCheese wrote:
Vector wrote:
These sound promising although there is another shoe for $100 full outsole coverage and 9oz in the Brooks Launch 6.
It definitely has a nice pop to the forefoot and feels lighter than it is. And yes available in a 14 and wides
In my opinion, the midsole is way better in the Reebok.
This shoe is a bit lighter too I think. Especially if you go half size down.
theJeff wrote:
Man, these are great.
Btw, the “permanent insole” can be removed quite painlessly and subbed for something thinner, thicker, or just more customized. I wear a 14, but these in a 13 (they don’t offer a 14 #effyoureebokandadidas) combined with my own super-thin insole fit me perfectly.
I ordered a half size down now too to compare and see if that fit is right.
theJeff wrote:
Man, these are great.
Btw, the “permanent insole” can be removed quite painlessly and subbed for something thinner, thicker, or just more customized. I wear a 14, but these in a 13 (they don’t offer a 14 #effyoureebokandadidas) combined with my own super-thin insole fit me perfectly.
Glad you got a size that fits. I think you were the one that recommended the Floatride Run Fast to me....are you going to pick up a pair of those as well?
Tron wrote:
theJeff wrote:
Man, these are great.
Btw, the “permanent insole” can be removed quite painlessly and subbed for something thinner, thicker, or just more customized. I wear a 14, but these in a 13 (they don’t offer a 14 #effyoureebokandadidas) combined with my own super-thin insole fit me perfectly.
Glad you got a size that fits. I think you were the one that recommended the Floatride Run Fast to me....are you going to pick up a pair of those as well?
Thanks :-) I have actually been thinking today about how much I enjoyed running in them this morning.
I tried a pair of the RFRF as soon as they came out in the 13. They almost fit when I put in a thinner insole - and would have been fine for short races - but as I was looking for a LD racer, I ultimately returned them.
Too bad, too. I LOVED the way the shoe felt when running fast.
Takeaways: Both shoes are great. Fast runs maybe a quarter size large, Forever Energy runs at least a half size large, possibly more.
AhWhatTheCheese wrote:
Vector wrote:
These sound promising although there is another shoe for $100 full outsole coverage and 9oz in the Brooks Launch 6.
It definitely has a nice pop to the forefoot and feels lighter than it is. And yes available in a 14 and wides
In my opinion, the midsole is way better in the Reebok.
That may be true...I did go over to traditional Eva (Pegasus 34s/Brooks launches) after I had a disaster with Solar glide. Maybe it was the overly softness but everytime I ran with solar glide I would have a piriformis/IT band flare up when I went back to an old 500+ mile launch I'd be good again...hopefully reeboks midsole is Not like Boost
What I was really thinking about was the incredibly light/cushioned Floatride run Fast any Forever wearers use these?
Vector wrote:
AhWhatTheCheese wrote:
In my opinion, the midsole is way better in the Reebok.
That may be true...I did go over to traditional Eva (Pegasus 34s/Brooks launches) after I had a disaster with Solar glide. Maybe it was the overly softness but everytime I ran with solar glide I would have a piriformis/IT band flare up when I went back to an old 500+ mile launch I'd be good again...hopefully reeboks midsole is Not like Boost
What I was really thinking about was the incredibly light/cushioned Floatride run Fast any Forever wearers use these?
The Forever is more stable and less wild/sloppy than Boost.
I also use the Run Fast. I have been using it since this summer for most of my speed work. Fantastic shoe.
I see theJeff made his review debut for this shoe on RoadTrailRun. Nice work.
My half-size down pair should be here tomorrow. I have been wanting to get back in this shoe in a better fit!
AhWhatTheCheese wrote:
I see theJeff made his review debut for this shoe on RoadTrailRun. Nice work.
My half-size down pair should be here tomorrow. I have been wanting to get back in this shoe in a better fit!
I now understand that theJeff puts up with all the toxic harassment on this board knowing that, as someone that used to play college football, he could probably crush all the fake macho boys here lol.
Anyways, I'm one of the 120lb skinny boys, and this shoe is still great.
Let us know how 1/2 size down is. Also you've run in RFRF how are those width wise? I'm currently in NB1400v6 and Brooks Launch /pegs34 and find all those good enough in width. I did not however find Boston 6s wide enough...
AhWhatTheCheese wrote:
I see theJeff made his review debut for this shoe on RoadTrailRun. Nice work.
My half-size down pair should be here tomorrow. I have been wanting to get back in this shoe in a better fit!
Hey thanks :-)
I wouldn’t have ever tried the shoes if it wasn’t for you and this thread, so thanks for that, as well.
All the best :-)
Needed half size down from all my nikes, altras, adidas, etc...
theJeff wrote:
AhWhatTheCheese wrote:
I see theJeff made his review debut for this shoe on RoadTrailRun. Nice work.
My half-size down pair should be here tomorrow. I have been wanting to get back in this shoe in a better fit!
Hey thanks :-)
I wouldn’t have ever tried the shoes if it wasn’t for you and this thread, so thanks for that, as well.
All the best :-)
Wait, so you’re not rojo?
Seriously though, congrats. Look forward to reading more long form thejeff reviews.
Luk wrote:
Let us know how 1/2 size down is. Also you've run in RFRF how are those width wise? I'm currently in NB1400v6 and Brooks Launch /pegs34 and find all those good enough in width. I did not however find Boston 6s wide enough...
I would say 1/2 size down is the right size. There is still enough room for the toes and it isn' t too narrow either. The Boston 6's definitely run smaller and narrower than this shoe.