YOMIF KEJELCHA WORLD RECORD ATTEMPT - 3:48 ~ FEBRUARY 9TH

m!ndweak wrote:

Once in Generation wrote:

Kejelcha is the once in generation athlete who will "totally annihilate the distance World records". He has competition like Geb and Bekele had before him but I think he will be the dominant athlete of this generation when it's all said and done. I predict

Indoor Mile World Record

Indoor 3k World Record

Indoor 5k World Record

3k World Record

5k World Record

10k World Record

Half World Record

Marathon World Record

Think about this for a minute, A guy who was going into the off season after 5k track training ran 59:17 for a debut half marathon and is targetting an El G Mile World Record. That is an insane combo of speed and strength and he can kick with the very best as well. And yes I said it, Kejelcha will slay Daniel Komen's two 3k marks before he's done.

Endurance placebo option!!!!

I usually don't engage you in these debates but let's put out a few facts and ask some questions because if there's one thing I'm sure of in the doping world, it's that Salazar is not giving his athletes EPO. And here is why

In Seven years at NOP, Kara Goucher who is Salazar hater and has spoke out about Alberto's methods has never once mentioned EPO in relation to NOP. All her claims revolve around thyroid hormones Cytomel and prednisone. Steve Magness has never once mentioned EPO and neither have any of the backroom staff who came out taking about androgel. All claims from NOP employees or athletes have rested on testosterone, TUE's and grey area supplements like L-Carnitine.

While we are on L-Carnitine, it is a blood booster which acts on abnormal and deformed red blood cells and boost red blood cells and increases hematocrit just like altitude and EPO. The question this begs is what would happen to biological passport reports on if you had an athlete living at altitude and taking L-Carnitine and EPO ? The answer is only a fool would take another blood booster on top of EPO when they would also be micro-dosing to avoid too high of an RBC count when WADA already have a blood profile on them, even more so in an athlete like Farah where they would have a profile of sea level blood counts as the combination of altitude, micro-dosing EPO and taking L-Carnitine would shoot his off-score through the roof, that plot would look like Everest plotted on his records and we've seen Farah's records from the fancy bear hacks and no such thing appears.

The reason athletes microdose is because they can't boost blood volume too high so have to take smaller but more regular doses to keep production constant as ups and downs are highly suspicious. So why would a training group like NOP add another factor into the equation in L-Carnitine if they are already taking EPO microdoses? Taking another booster would mean having to further lower or completely stop taking EPO to keep blood volume stable and as you believe that EPO is the most important thing, those known facts kind of throw a spanner in your free for all theory don't they?

NOP are shady and have probably crossed the line but I would put my house on them not using EPO.

Dude no need to do a renato 15 paragraph to tell us, we know!!! EPO has been exposed!!!! It truly stands for ENDURANCE PLACEBO OPTION!!! Use science, not fairy tales!! Otherwise your racist!!

Managed by Jos Hermans. Hmmm...that name rings a bell. Oh yea -

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7084115

Once in Generation wrote:

Kejelcha is the once in generation athlete who will "totally annihilate the distance World records". He has competition like Geb and Bekele had before him but I think he will be the dominant athlete of this generation when it's all said and done. I predict

Indoor Mile World Record

Indoor 3k World Record

Indoor 5k World Record

3k World Record

5k World Record

10k World Record

Half World Record

Marathon World Record

Think about this for a minute, A guy who was going into the off season after 5k track training ran 59:17 for a debut half marathon and is targetting an El G Mile World Record. That is an insane combo of speed and strength and he can kick with the very best as well. And yes I said it, Kejelcha will slay Daniel Komen's two 3k marks before he's done.

Kejelcha is a great athlete but apart from the indoor mile(which he may or may not break), those other records are beyond is ability and he will never get them. When all is said and done and Kejelcha retires, his 5000m PB will be 12:46:xx he ran last year. 10000m he will not break 26:30 and for half marathon, he will not go faster than 58:30. The marathon is not his event and he will realize once he debuts. He will be in the same league as Yenew Alamirew. Daniel Komen's 3000m records are not easy otherwise GebrSillasie and Bekele would have broken them.

This is exciting news. But where do you get the 3000m part from? I didn't notice it was mentioned in the video...

3:45 outdoor? wrote:

Looks like Salazar thinks he has a shot at the 3k as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtWbsZzj_o5/?hl=en

Too micro-juiced to lose?

Yomif's Island wrote:

This is exciting news. But where do you get the 3000m part from? I didn't notice it was mentioned in the video...

3:45 outdoor? wrote:

Looks like Salazar thinks he has a shot at the 3k as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtWbsZzj_o5/?hl=en

Salazar explicitly mentions the 3k record as a potential future attempt. Listen to both clips in case you missed it.

It's hard to offer any credence or legitimacy to your points when you don't even spell Gebrselassie's name correctly. You've had 20 years to learn that, dude. Major fail.

Entoto Hills wrote:

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Kejelcha is a great athlete but apart from the indoor mile(which he may or may not break), those other records are beyond is ability and he will never get them. When all is said and done and Kejelcha retires, his 5000m PB will be 12:46:xx he ran last year. 10000m he will not break 26:30 and for half marathon, he will not go faster than 58:30. The marathon is not his event and he will realize once he debuts. He will be in the same league as Yenew Alamirew. Daniel Komen's 3000m records are not easy otherwise GebrSillasie and Bekele would have broken them.

I don't think I'd be so smug with your predictions. One only needs to look at Mo Farah and see that Yomif could be even better after joining NOP. Farah running 3:28 and a 59:mid in the same year is pretty similar, and so far he has run 2:05 flat and looks like he can do more.

Though I will say, breaking the marathon record seems unlikely, not just for Yomif, but for anyone. I think we have a record that will stand a couple of Olympic cycles.

Will Cheserek be in the race? If he's fit that could be a battle for the ages.

Oh Please wrote:

I don't think I'd be so smug with your predictions. One only needs to look at Mo Farah and see that Yomif could be even better after joining NOP. Farah running 3:28 and a 59:mid in the same year is pretty similar, and so far he has run 2:05 flat and looks like he can do more.

So your example is someone who holds exactly zero world records?

What music is that? I had a question when I played that.

Pretty exciting to have world record attempts again.

Kejelcha and NOP are clean.

Why doesn't anyone complain of Tom Brady's cocktail of PED therapies, from stem cell injections to unreleased medications, spending over $1m/year on recovery... anyone listen to Joe Rogan's podcast with head of Harvard genetics lab talking about Brady protocol?

This wr is soft in comparison to the outside wr and particularly in relation to the outside 1500m wr, so it can be in reach without the outdoor wr's being in reach. This makes me wonder again why Salazar and NOP didn't take Cheserek, who, after all, ran 3:49i last year, and who had the Oregon connection that usually leads to a Nike contract, along with 17 national titles. Maybe Cheserek asked for too much money but you'd think that Salazar would rather work with a future American star and Oregon alum, because Ches has better top speed than Kejelcha, and so could be made easier into a future outdoor champion. Kejelcha will have difficulty with guys like Barega, but he has already proven that he can hold close to wr pace for 5k without being paced.

zxcvxzcv wrote:

This wr is soft in comparison to the outside wr and particularly in relation to the outside 1500m wr, so it can be in reach without the outdoor wr's being in reach. This makes me wonder again why Salazar and NOP didn't take Cheserek, who, after all, ran 3:49i last year, and who had the Oregon connection that usually leads to a Nike contract, along with 17 national titles. Maybe Cheserek asked for too much money but you'd think that Salazar would rather work with a future American star and Oregon alum, because Ches has better top speed than Kejelcha, and so could be made easier into a future outdoor champion. Kejelcha will have difficulty with guys like Barega, but he has already proven that he can hold close to wr pace for 5k without being paced.

From watching those Flotrack workout videos it doesn't appear Ed Ches is the most coachable athlete. I don't think he listened to Stephen Haas one time in the five videos. Seems to run his workouts way too hard which is probably why he's been injured the past two outdoor seasons. I know nothing of Kejelcha's coach-ability but Salazar seems to be pretty in control of the athletes he coaches. Al and Ches don't seem like a good mix.

With all the accusations labelled against Al Sal and NOP, I expect many athletes, who have brains in their heads and who care about their careers, to avoid him and his camp like a plague. And more so for someone like Cheserek because his career is just beginning and his future looking bright. In my opinion, NOP was not a part of his options. As for his coachability, I somewhat agree that he doesn't seem to follow through with Stephen Haas' instructions especially when he tells him to go steady or hold back. His coach needs to become more forceful and tough on him every time he fails to follow his instruction. It appears to me as if his coach is overwhelmed by Cheserek and thinks that he(Cheserek) knows what he is doing. In one of the videos I think Cheserek said he is the one who approached Stephen and asked him if he could help him sometime. So appears that Cheserek has his own program but Stephen, who might have been coaching less talented athletes, was to be there only to help hold Cheserek accountable in his training. I could be wrong but I think that is what I heard.

grox wrote:

Oh Please wrote:

I don't think I'd be so smug with your predictions. One only needs to look at Mo Farah and see that Yomif could be even better after joining NOP. Farah running 3:28 and a 59:mid in the same year is pretty similar, and so far he has run 2:05 flat and looks like he can do more.

So your example is someone who holds exactly zero world records?

Indoor 2 mile

What videos?

In Recovery wrote:

Seriously mate? wrote:

From watching those Flotrack workout videos it doesn't appear Ed Ches is the most coachable athlete. I don't think he listened to Stephen Haas one time in the five videos. Seems to run his workouts way too hard which is probably why he's been injured the past two outdoor seasons. I know nothing of Kejelcha's coach-ability but Salazar seems to be pretty in control of the athletes he coaches. Al and Ches don't seem like a good mix.

What videos?

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