I love how any mentally lazy alt-Righties just repeat over and over and over and over again that if you don't like their version of America, then you should leave.
Even if it makes zero sense.
Hyuck Hyuck! Good one! Hi Five!
I love how any mentally lazy alt-Righties just repeat over and over and over and over again that if you don't like their version of America, then you should leave.
Even if it makes zero sense.
Hyuck Hyuck! Good one! Hi Five!
nice cut and paste meme ya got there wrote:
I love how any mentally lazy alt-Righties just repeat over and over and over and over again that if you don't like their version of America, then you should leave.
Even if it makes zero sense.
Hyuck Hyuck! Good one! Hi Five!
Nope. All of the logic has been presented to libs countless times. But libs don’t understand logic and reason. Too focused on race baiting.
And yes, we don’t want to abandon historic and traditional American values and replace them with yours. Find another country.
John Utah wrote:
nice cut and paste meme ya got there wrote:
I love how any mentally lazy alt-Righties just repeat over and over and over and over again that if you don't like their version of America, then you should leave.
Even if it makes zero sense.
Hyuck Hyuck! Good one! Hi Five!
Nope. All of the logic has been presented to libs countless times. But libs don’t understand logic and reason. Too focused on race baiting.
And yes, we don’t want to abandon historic and traditional American values and replace them with yours. Find another country.
confirmed........Johhny U is a moran.
he doesn't even see that he in a loop wrote:
John Utah wrote:
Nope. All of the logic has been presented to libs countless times. But libs don’t understand logic and reason. Too focused on race baiting.
And yes, we don’t want to abandon historic and traditional American values and replace them with yours. Find another country.
confirmed........Johhny U is a moran.
the brojos encourage this racist turd to keep on posting...
John Utah wrote:
nice cut and paste meme ya got there wrote:
I love how any mentally lazy alt-Righties just repeat over and over and over and over again that if you don't like their version of America, then you should leave.
Even if it makes zero sense.
Hyuck Hyuck! Good one! Hi Five!
Nope. All of the logic has been presented to libs countless times. But libs don’t understand logic and reason. Too focused on race baiting.
And yes, we don’t want to abandon historic and traditional American values and replace them with yours. Find another country.
And just what are those historic and traditional American values?
John Utah wrote:
nice cut and paste meme ya got there wrote:
I love how any mentally lazy alt-Righties just repeat over and over and over and over again that if you don't like their version of America, then you should leave.
Even if it makes zero sense.
Hyuck Hyuck! Good one! Hi Five!
Nope. All of the logic has been presented to libs countless times. But libs don’t understand logic and reason. Too focused on race baiting.
And yes, we don’t want to abandon historic and traditional American values and replace them with yours. Find another country.
Let's list traditional American values:
1) Genocide against the original Americans.
2) Theft of land by white settlers.
3) Slave trade of black Africans.
4) Jim Crow versus black Africans.
5) Falsely taking credit for European victory in WW2. [Soviet Union after victory at Battle of Stalingrad did not need G.B. or U.S.A.'s help. G.B. and U.S.A. prevented Soviet Union from taking all of Europe.]
What traditional values? wrote:
John Utah wrote:
Nope. All of the logic has been presented to libs countless times. But libs don’t understand logic and reason. Too focused on race baiting.
And yes, we don’t want to abandon historic and traditional American values and replace them with yours. Find another country.
Let's list traditional American values:
1) Genocide against the original Americans.
2) Theft of land by white settlers.
3) Slave trade of black Africans.
4) Jim Crow versus black Africans.
5) Falsely taking credit for European victory in WW2. [Soviet Union after victory at Battle of Stalingrad did not need G.B. or U.S.A.'s help. G.B. and U.S.A. prevented Soviet Union from taking all of Europe.]
1. What genocide? Over 90% of them died at first contact due to not having any immunity against old world viruses.
2. Most of the land wasn't being used by the natives.
3. All cultures practiced slavery. Even African cultures.
4. All cultures practiced some form of segregation.
5. If it wasn't for America, Germany would have probably won WWII.
drip wrote:
And just what are those historic and traditional American values?
just a wild hunch, but i'm guessing they are whatever values Johhny U happened to be born into.
People often take their experience of the world when their cognitive abilities first become fully developed around the age of 12 and extrapolate that this must be best time/place in the history of the world,and with them smack dab in the center.
It's a natural response to the first experiences of full independence, realizing that they could, at least theoretically, survive without their parents' guidance. Most of us grow out of it. Not all of us.
I work with adolescents and teens experiencing a delayed or prolonged experience of this phase of development. They have, in essence, stalled in the normal path of human psychological development. I'm in the process of publishing my fifth peer-reviewed article on the subject.
John Utah displays the classic symptoms of this of this, although he seems to be out of the common age range of 14-19. It is not unknown for the symptoms to last well into full adulthood, and for a select few, throughout their entire life.
What are you talking about? wrote:
What traditional values? wrote:
Let's list traditional American values:
1) Genocide against the original Americans.
2) Theft of land by white settlers.
3) Slave trade of black Africans.
4) Jim Crow versus black Africans.
5) Falsely taking credit for European victory in WW2. [Soviet Union after victory at Battle of Stalingrad did not need G.B. or U.S.A.'s help. G.B. and U.S.A. prevented Soviet Union from taking all of Europe.]
1. What genocide? Over 90% of them died at first contact due to not having any immunity against old world viruses.
2. Most of the land wasn't being used by the natives.
3. All cultures practiced slavery. Even African cultures.
4. All cultures practiced some form of segregation.
5. If it wasn't for America, Germany would have probably won WWII.
I believe it was the Brits, Spanish, French, Dutch and other Europeans who did 1 and 2.
Just a coincidence is obviously a liberal academia aszhat. Quit indoctrinationing our children with your crap. Please.
What are you talking about? wrote:
What traditional values? wrote:
Let's list traditional American values:
1) Genocide against the original Americans.
2) Theft of land by white settlers.
3) Slave trade of black Africans.
4) Jim Crow versus black Africans.
5) Falsely taking credit for European victory in WW2. [Soviet Union after victory at Battle of Stalingrad did not need G.B. or U.S.A.'s help. G.B. and U.S.A. prevented Soviet Union from taking all of Europe.]
1. What genocide? Over 90% of them died at first contact due to not having any immunity against old world viruses.
2. Most of the land wasn't being used by the natives.
3. All cultures practiced slavery. Even African cultures.
4. All cultures practiced some form of segregation.
5. If it wasn't for America, Germany would have probably won WWII.
USA and Great Britain were rushing to Berlin, not because Soviets were losing. USA and G.B. were rushing to German so both nations could have a say post-WW2 in European affairs.
I’m a just left of center democrat, who spent a bunch of years living in the former Soviet Union just after the fall of it all. And to those who want to rank the US in the ranks of Kenya and Turkmenistan, I’d recommend going to those countries, learning the language and culture, and really embedding yourself in the life and place.
And I think you’ll come out of the experience with a vastly different understanding of what true institutional corruption is, throughout all levels and planes if government and society.
Wait a minute, who's this John Utah character who thinks "libs" don't understand logic and reason?
Has he ever met a Trump follower?
Wait A wrote:
Wait a minute, who's this John Utah character who thinks "libs" don't understand logic and reason?
Has he ever met a Trump follower?
He's a tool who insists that it's his right to drive 68 in the fast lane.
then when shown he is in fact wrong, he pouts and throws a tantrum rather than modify his behavior to benefit society.
He has the mentality of a middle schooler, but the body of a middle-aged man.
a child who teaches kids wrote:
Wait A wrote:
Wait a minute, who's this John Utah character who thinks "libs" don't understand logic and reason?
Has he ever met a Trump follower?
He's a tool who insists that it's his right to drive 68 in the fast lane.
then when shown he is in fact wrong, he pouts and throws a tantrum rather than modify his behavior to benefit society.
He has the mentality of a middle schooler, but the body of a middle-aged man.
You just gave the perfect description of Flagpole.
What traditional values? wrote:
John Utah wrote:
Nope. All of the logic has been presented to libs countless times. But libs don’t understand logic and reason. Too focused on race baiting.
And yes, we don’t want to abandon historic and traditional American values and replace them with yours. Find another country.
Let's list traditional American values:
1) Genocide against the original Americans.
2) Theft of land by white settlers.
3) Slave trade of black Africans.
4) Jim Crow versus black Africans.
5) Falsely taking credit for European victory in WW2. [Soviet Union after victory at Battle of Stalingrad did not need G.B. or U.S.A.'s help. G.B. and U.S.A. prevented Soviet Union from taking all of Europe.]
I'm going to weigh in here and I'm not even American.
1 - There was no genocide, most Native Americans died from having no resistance to the diseases brought unintentionally by the Europeans, and during fighting against the peaceful Europeans escaping persecution and trying to farm unclaimed land. You may as well say that the unchecked Third World immigration taking place today into the USA and Europe is 'genocide' against white people as it will largely have the same end result - the extinction of the native peoples (at least we can agree Europeans are native in Europe?). Of course, some people do argue that immigration is 'genocide' and they are denounced as far-right racists by your sort.
2 - There was no Native American state, with all that implies regarding property rights, to 'steal from'.
3 - A stain on humanity for sure, but Europeans (and in particular the British) were the first people in the history of mankind to end slavery as a stain on humanity. The Arabs were still enslaving blacks into this century (and arguably still do - see the recent migrant 'market' in Libya), and btw, were raiding the shores of Europe for slaves well in to the 18th century (it's estimated MILLIONs of white Europeans were kidnapped and enslaved by North Africans over the centuries).
4 - Pass.
5 - There might be an element of truth in this, but the USSR could never have defeated Germany without US and British supplies, as well as the German manpower being tied up in the West to defend an Allied invasion (and Allied bombing of German factories and cities). Most historians think that would have been the case even after Stalingrad. Germany could at least have forced a stalemate if they weren't fighting the Allies as well. The Red Army was close to its limits at the end of the Second World War. They'd lost 10 million soldiers or something. Of course it was in the interests of the Allies to exaggerate the Red menace as soon as Hitler had been defeated.
It's so ironic that most of the concepts that lefties hold so dear and use to condemn America and the West with - such as human rights, equality, tolerance, feminism, respect for other cultures etc etc were invented by Europeans and Americans, or at least invented by Europeans and spread and defended by Americans in the 20th century. If Europe and (European) America had never existed, the truth is that the world would be likely a pretty horrendous and barbaric place.
1/2 dane wrote:
Sometimes I wonder why my father left Denmark. It’s always rated high in education, science, low crime ect. For such a small country they have their s*** together.
He left because its a neighborhood somewhere, barely a country
Coevett wrote:
[quote]What traditional values? wrote:
Let's list traditional American values:
1) Genocide against the original Americans.
1 - There was no genocide, most Native Americans died from having no resistance to the diseases brought unintentionally by the Europeans, and during fighting against the peaceful Europeans escaping persecution and trying to farm unclaimed land. You may as well say that the unchecked Third World immigration taking place today into the USA and Europe is 'genocide' against white people as it will largely have the same end result - the extinction of the native peoples (at least we can agree Europeans are native in Europe?). Of course, some people do argue that immigration is 'genocide' and they are denounced as far-right racists by your sort.
I think it bizarre you would claim there was no genocide against Native Americans while also claiming there is currently a genocide against white people in Africa.
polarbear wrote:
I’m a just left of center democrat, who spent a bunch of years living in the former Soviet Union just after the fall of it all. And to those who want to rank the US in the ranks of Kenya and Turkmenistan, I’d recommend going to those countries, learning the language and culture, and really embedding yourself in the life and place.
And I think you’ll come out of the experience with a vastly different understanding of what true institutional corruption is, throughout all levels and planes if government and society.
Put on your military science hat. Soviets lost nearly 27 million lives during WW2. US lost about 400,000 fighting in Africa, Asia, Europe and Pacific Islands in total. Soviet Union had nearly 9 million (mostly) men and women killed in combat. Once Soviet Union knew they had Germans on the run, Soviet Union would have been willing to suffer more to take more countries. I do not believe anyone who studies military science would say USA and G.B. would have beaten Germany without Soviet Union.
Learn some English wrote:
Ex Runner wrote:
. . . which begs the question . . .
It doesn’t beg the question, it raises the question. These expressions mean entirely different things.
I'm on your side of this issue but I think common (mis)usage has tipped the scales and the expression has come to mean raises the question in common usage. I haven't looked but I would not be shocked if some of the major dictionaries with a strong on-line face list the acceptance of the idea that language is shaped by current common usage and currently include the 'raises the' as at least an alternate definition.