You should be defending Catholic priests. Or R Kelly. You probably are.
You should be defending Catholic priests. Or R Kelly. You probably are.
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SprintTriathlon wrote:
I just think we should let the dead be dead and thats all.
The dead will stay dead.
But these men continue to live and need to heal.
They have lifelong trauma from this and now have kids of their own.
When the first one, Wade spoke out publicly it inspired James to speak out. Knowing someone else was affected helped him come to terms with his demons.
And through this we all learn how people can be manipulated and understand what happened.
And maybe prevent something like this from happening again.
There were likely other children now grown that went through this in silence and see this as therapy for them.
This isn't about Michael Jackson, this is about the damage that he left behind.
This is spot on.
I’m going to a Michael Jackson show tomorrow night with my girlfriend.
Is this okay or not?
Shamone!
T.I. is slamming the HBO documentary, “Leaving Neverland,” and calling for an investigation into other controversial dead celebrities, like Elvis Presley and Hugh Hefner, saying there is an “agenda to destroy” the black culture. The rapper posted a snippet from an old interview of Michael Jackson talking to Pierce Morgan back in 1999 and wrote, “Let this man speak for himself to defend his legacy. Don’t just listen to one side and expect to find truth. Oh that’s right…Dead men can’t speak.” The “Whatever You Like” star believes there is a plot to “destroy OUR CULTURE” and thinks society should look into some other legends with alleged questionable pasts
https://www.instagram.com/p/BusOyCIh2MM/“So what was the point again? Destroy another strong black historical LEGEND?!?! It’s several examples of pedophilia in American History… if y’all pulling up all our old sh.it… we gotta examine ELVIS PRESLEY, HUGH HEPHNER [sic],and a whole slew of others guilty of the same if not more!!! BUT WHY US all the time? There’s an agenda to destroy OUR CULTURE,” T.I. wrote.
He also shared a tweet claiming not every person who spends time with children is an alleged pedophile. He believes the accusations against MJ are “assaults against OUR CULTURE!!! Make no mistake of it!!!”
A middle aged man who looks and sounds like a pedophile
who buys a compound and turns it into a child's theme park
who spends the majority of his private and public life with numerous little boys
who systematically befriends little boys and wine-and-dines their parents into trusting him,
and who is accused of sexual abuse
I don't need testimony or proof.
One question, had Michael not been rich and powerful, how would he have defended himself against these accusations? Any rich person can brush aside an accusation with a claim that it is only being made for extortion.
DJ Mustard says R. Kelly is a "monster" and a "pig" ... but he's reserving judgment on Michael Jackson. YG says he's done with both of 'em ... but also has some condemning words for white people.
https://www.tmz.com/2019/03/09/dj-mustard-yg-r-kelly-michael-jackson-debate-racism-bill-cosby/Mustard tells us he doesn't mess with Kelly because he believes the accusers -- and because he has daughters -- but isn't so certain about MJ. He admits he's been swayed by the "Surviving R. Kelly" docuseries ... but he's yet to see "Leaving Neverland."
YG adds some entertainment throughout by challenging Mustard for rebuking one but not the other, but then takes the convo in a different direction ... with claims that racism's behind everything -- including Bill Cosby going to prison.
The #1 Michael Jackson impersonator in the world is seeing zero negative impact on his bookings since the airing of HBO‘s, “Leaving Neverland,” and the tribute artist believes it’s because the documentary’s two accusers just aren’t credible.
The Blast spoke with Navi, a Trinidadian-born MJ impersonator, who works primarily in the U.K. Navi is world-renowned, and portrayed the King of Pop in the 2017 biopic, “Michael Jackson: Searching for Neverland.”
https://theblast.com/michael-jackson-impersonator-navi-leaving-neverland/
Armstronglivs wrote:
You don't know what "independent" means wrote:
Chandlers -- discredited by Mary Fischer's GQ article. Later discovered that Jordan Chandler got a permanent restraining order from his father after a death threat.
Arvizos -- discredited by Thomas Mesereau in the court. Later Aphrodite Jones provided even more details of this family as career grifters in her book.
Wade Robison -- testified for the defense in the 2005 trial. So either he lied under oath or he is lying now (or both). Lying under oath has legal consequences. Lying to a film director and the media does not.
Those people are as "credible" as Jussie Smollett.
You should be defending Catholic priests. Or R Kelly. You probably are.
No. I don't defend them. But let me tell you there is a big difference. R.Kelly can defend himself. The same for Cosby, Weistein, Spacey and so forth. Jackson cannot.
I guess you have no explanation for why Robison and Safechuck are supposed to be more credible than Chandler and Arvizo. I don't think they are. I expect they will be exposed by another investigative journalist. Interestingly enough, Dan Reed considered contacting Macaulay Culkin and Brett Barnes, but decided not to.
You don't know what "independent" means wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
You should be defending Catholic priests. Or R Kelly. You probably are.
No. I don't defend them. But let me tell you there is a big difference. R.Kelly can defend himself. The same for Cosby, Weistein, Spacey and so forth. Jackson cannot.
I guess you have no explanation for why Robison and Safechuck are supposed to be more credible than Chandler and Arvizo. I don't think they are. I expect they will be exposed by another investigative journalist. Interestingly enough, Dan Reed considered contacting Macaulay Culkin and Brett Barnes, but decided not to.
You can't liken one witness to any other in another case - or even the same case. Every case is different; each witness in any case is an individual; their testimony is judged according to how believable it is in the basis of what they say. Many find the testimony by Jackson's accusers to be highly believable - as well as very sad and painful. Despite what you claim, they haven't been discredited. Jackson is dead, so he faces no penalty - regrettably.
The singer has pulled in $2.4 billion since his death in 2009, much of it from the sale of two assets: Jackson received $750 million for his half of the Sony/ATV publishing catalog in 2016 and $287 million for his EMI Music Publishing stake last year.
Jackson's postmortem music earnings are insulated against a potential decline in consumption by a quarter-billion-dollar pact signed with Sony last year. Although most record deals contain morals clauses that allow labels wide latitude to drop artists, it's not clear how such provisions would apply to a deceased performer,
Mike Tyson says he loved Michael Jackson ... but there's no way in hell he would've let his kids hang with MJ unattended. The legendary boxer joined Michael Rapaport on his "I AM RAPAPORT" podcast (coming to Luminary this spring) ... where he was asked about the explosive "Leaving Neverland" documentary.
Tyson -- who was friends with Jackson and even visited him at Neverland several times -- says he believes a lot of the blame falls on the parents of the kids.
"The parents have to be responsible for that sh*t. I just thought the fact that these kids, Michael is telling them, 'if anyone knows about this we're both gonna go to prison forever.' It was just ... really horrible."
"I have an 8-year-old kid. I wouldn't let Michael hang out with my kid. I wouldn't let my kid go over Michael's house. I love Michael. Ya know what I mean. Michael has a reputation of this."
Tyson says "whatever happened when [Robson and Safechuck] was kids is wrong" ... but did critique the men for participating in the documentary. "What you're doing now is even wrong. Coming out saying this stuff. It comes across that these are guys just out to get some money."
https://www.tmz.com/2019/03/12/mike-tyson-michael-jackson-leaving-neverland-hb-documentary/Here's a view from Michael Jackson himself about the HBO thing:
https://twitter.com/kyledunnigan/status/1103405202911227915?s=11
Too much money involved with the ongoing marketing of MJ too not keep his name in high rotation on social media.
In his case the idea that bad publicity is as good as good publicity is valid.
The statute of limitations for Wade Robson’s perjury has expired.
He can tell the truth now without legal ramifications.
And no DA was going to charge him anyway.
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RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
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Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
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