Pierre Douton wrote:
Sounds like Trump is having a deterrent effect! Why not keep working on the problem to get it even lower?
The rest of your post is nothing but whataboutism so I won’t engage.
Environmentally Catastrophic wrote:
We will block the path of many migratory species with the wall. It has to be built some distance from the border, so large swaths of private property will be have to be split and/or taken through eminent domain. Some of the portions on private property will have doors. The problem isn't the effectiveness of the wall, it's the cost/benefit analysis. The costs, both direct and indirect make the wall a poor investment ATMO.
Customs and Border Protection agent Fernando Grijalva told CBS News this is the worst immigration crisis he’s ever witnessed in his entire career.
CBS evening news interviewed Grijalva in Arizona Thursday, after agents apprehended 180 migrants attempting to gain access to the U.S. He said the area has become a popular spot for illegal border crossings in recent months.
“I’ve seen six different presidents the time that I’ve been with the Border Patrol, and this is the worst crisis that I’ve seen,” he said.
Yes. It. Will.. wrote:
Liberals need those immigrant votes because their local votes are on decline. Thanks socialism.
Pierre Douton wrote:
Flagpole, you are making a lot of the James Bond style arguments I discredited above. Let's not have the perfect be the enemy of the good here. Surely you have locks on your doors at home. The wall will stop at least some illegal immigration by making it more difficult. Not everyone is going to rent a 50 foot ladder or take a boat instead. Some will give up.
Regarding point 8, what is America about? To me, it's a melting pot of skilled, legal immigrants who are willing to work hard. It doesn't mean we need to allow every tribesman who's been living in a mud hut or drug infested warzone into our country. If their lives are so bad outside America, is it because they lack some magic dirt present only in our country? Or is it, perhaps, because they are simply uneducated, of poor character, and not a good fit?
And I strongly agree with your Point #2. We need a comprehensive approach including a wall/steel barrier and punishment for business owners who hire illegal workers.
i like facts wrote:
Come on!!! wrote:
More than half of what you call illegal immigration comes from people overstaying legal visas. They mostly fly in.
It's closer to 44% I believe. According to Stephen Crowder. And this link below
The CMS report, written by Robert Warren, a former director of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service’s statistics division, says 65 percent of net arrivals — those joining the undocumented population — from 2008 to 2015 were visa overstays./
L L wrote:
I've crossed the border by plane.
That'll clear any wall.