Don't use that percentage incline that's insane and you'll fluck up your shins.
I run at 0%, 99% of the time. And it transfers 100% to real world running. If I run 11mph for threshold indoors I go outside and run 11mph for threshold etc.
If anything running is harder at 0% than outside. My easy pace effort of 9mph/6:40 outdoors is more like 7.5-8mph (7:30-8min miles) indoors.
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Yeah you can. The treadmill should be just fine.
You might just have a really legit treadmill. Just anecdotally, let me give you my experience. I’m a member of planet fitness and I do the same pre-lift workout all the time. 18 mins w/ first mile 9-10mph, then every 3 mins I increase by 0.4 mph from 6-18 mins. This ends up bein gun about 18 mins for 3 miles. I always do 1.5% on any treadmill.
This is really easy on the treadmills at my “home” planet fitness, and varies from one busted treadmill to another, even though they’re all the same model. I’ve even started doing it again after lifting. BUT at the other gym across town, they have those treadmills where the belt is not continuous, but more like “tiled together” - these have less bounce and unless I’m feeling great, that workout of mine is murder. I have a “hard” workout that I recently started doing, 3 miles out, 3 miles back on very flat but usually cold and windy path. With the wind 16:30, against the wind 17:30, I feel like this is much harder.
I think a lot of that might be because I listen to (good) punk rock and occasionally rap when I run on treadmills and never listen to music when I run outside. If my phone shits the bed when I’m on the treadmill or I get some shitty ad, perceived effort spikes dramatically.
Take home, not all treadmills are the same, some you can literally just bounce along, I think the belt slows over time on many. Wind really is a huge factor, there are charts calculating how many seconds, but into a steady Midwest wind is like 10 seconds for sure. Also music and distractions on a treadmill help. I think this is where the treadmill is really useful, you can basically biohack your body into overperforming. But if you only do treadmill you won’t have the same “push” strength to propel you forward and you’ll be slow and weak.
Probably the best way to approximate indoor running speed to outdoor running speed is to get a reliable footpod like the Stryd.
Since it tracks your foot motion it's completely independent of the belt speed and whether or not certain belts slow down more than others.
Ive only run on 2 different models of treadmills with it - one of them at a commercial gym and one in my appartment gym.
The one at the commercial gym reports a speed 0.1mph faster than my true speed
The one in my apartment reports a speed that is ~0.3mph faster than my true speed
But in general, the speed displayed on the treadmill will typically be FASTER than your ACTUAL speed because each foot strike leads to a slowing of the belt and then a compensatory acceleration which occurs while you are airborne between strides.
Ill tell you next weekend after my marathon, alot of miles logged on the threadmill since Xmas due to the weather. Psychologically i don't feel ready but then again i always feel like that a week out.
I think it won't be as good as running outdoors, but it also has benefits, if you want performance without bias you can use a treadclimber (
https://www.bestforlives.com/best-treadclimbers/
)
it's pretty much like a treadmill, but It will take time for you to get used to.
all day i dream about shoes wrote:
Don't use that percentage incline that's insane and you'll fluck up your shins.
I run at 0%, 99% of the time. And it transfers 100% to real world running. If I run 11mph for threshold indoors I go outside and run 11mph for threshold etc.
If anything running is harder at 0% than outside. My easy pace effort of 9mph/6:40 outdoors is more like 7.5-8mph (7:30-8min miles) indoors.
Completely agree with this. For over ten years I have competed at a national level and have always done my speedwork on a Landice treadmill, as well as many easy and even long runs, especially in the winter. I run at 0% incline. It feels harder than running outside, but the results line up very well with what would be expected from training at the same pace outside, and may even be better.
Of course, we can get the same performance on a treadmill. If there are cruel winters in Canada or changing weather as in the UK, it's a must to have a treadmill. Now you have to choose what treadmill you need exactly. Buying a new one is pretty expensive, but the most performant. I have chosen between a manual and a motorized, the motorized treadmill. I set the km I want and connect the music or a video on the big screen and enjoy. It's more practic and comfortable.
The answer is absolutely ......YES! :)
I would just need a super talented runner and a correct calibrated fast treadmill on the Norh Pole to coach a world record. ))
Why the fukc were there a bunch of posts from this thread deleted? If a mod is going to delete posts an explanation should be left in there place.
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all about the effort..... wrote:
Yes maybe even more. Don't let the idiots here try to tell you otherwise. I have been running on the treadmill every winter for the last 15 years averaging 50-60 miles a week.
The question was "Can I get the same fitness from treadmill running?" not "Can I be fit from treadmill running?"
You admit you've been on the mill for the past 15 years, so you can't compare it to what it would be like to log ground miles over the winter over the past 15 years. So your response isn't helpful. Would your training have been equal or better had you not been on the mill? You don't know because you haven't done it.
Recognized one of my posts from last year. Just wanted to let you know I have been running for 40 years so my response WAS helpful.
Maracon wrote:
https://treadmillreviewsite.co.uk/manual-vs-motorised/Of course, we can get the same performance on a treadmill. If there are cruel winters in Canada or changing weather as in the UK, it's a must to have a treadmill. Now you have to choose what treadmill you need exactly. Buying a new one is pretty expensive, but the most performant. I have chosen between a manual and a motorized, the motorized treadmill. I set the km I want and connect the music or a video on the big screen and enjoy. It's more practic and comfortable.
I have a motorized on. I have seen differences between it and a manual one.
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xatajam823 wrote:
Nope. You're not actually propelling yourself forward on a treadmill, only picking your feet up and moving them forward
I enjoy reading threads from 1 year ago (or longer) when they are revived, mostly because of the dry wit responses. Seems that recent treads are not so fun....maybe the COVID-19 depression?
My favorite--so far--is the revived thread from 5 years ago about some guy who met a woman (online? I can't remember) and over time she revealed that she had been a stripper for 6 years.