Hello,
I am training for Chicago, hopefully going into the low 2:50's. I try to always run long and speed work days outside, but due to life constraints log the rest of my miles indoors. Can I gain the same fitness from treadmill running?
Hello,
I am training for Chicago, hopefully going into the low 2:50's. I try to always run long and speed work days outside, but due to life constraints log the rest of my miles indoors. Can I gain the same fitness from treadmill running?
Yes maybe even more. Don't let the idiots here try to tell you otherwise. I have been running on the treadmill every winter for the last 15 years averaging 50-60 miles a week.
This chick did pretty good doing a lot of her training on the treadmill.
You can be as fit as you want to be! Just screw around with the calibration and use footpod for distance.
1. Incline to 1.5 to 2ish
2. Fan in your face to create the sensation of a headwind
Yes.
Anecdotally, I think the biggest risk w long term treadmill training is overuse injury: you don't get any of the turning, uphill, downhill, different surfaces, kicking "playful, friendly" dogs that running outside has built in.
I ran 2:49 last year in Boston on mostly treadmill training, including workouts. I actually don't think I could do the same with just outdoor training. I seem to lack the wherewithal to run quality miles in the context of a long run outdoors by myself, whereas on the mill, I can bang out 5x(2E+2M) (8.2, 9.7) as long as I have the right movie going on my iPad.
My outdoor miles were mostly just 5 mile run commutes home (with a 5E mill double at night) and some easy long runs with hills just to prep my legs.
that said the last 6 miles were torture and my legs almost gave out. was on a 2:45 pace through 20.
I think I'll stick to easier and less weather temperamental course going forward (Boston weather was a nightmare) if I ever run another. 2nd kid was just born. yikes.
all about the effort..... wrote:
Yes maybe even more. Don't let the idiots here try to tell you otherwise. I have been running on the treadmill every winter for the last 15 years averaging 50-60 miles a week.
The question was "Can I get the same fitness from treadmill running?" not "Can I be fit from treadmill running?"
You admit you've been on the mill for the past 15 years, so you can't compare it to what it would be like to log ground miles over the winter over the past 15 years. So your response isn't helpful. Would your training have been equal or better had you not been on the mill? You don't know because you haven't done it.
theJeff wrote:
Anecdotally, I think the biggest risk w long term treadmill training is overuse injury: you don't get any of the turning, uphill, downhill, different surfaces, kicking "playful, friendly" dogs that running outside has built in.
I think you're 100% correct about overuse but basically all of the running on a treadmill is uphill; most people set it to 1-2% as you've recommended. I royally f*cked up my achilles a couple of years ago by running solely on a treadmill for a couple of months, mostly at 1% and pushing up the incline a bit when I got bored. The latter is what finally pushed a persistent tingle over the edge. Flipped the incline up to 9% one evening and *pop* -- ~16 months of recovery. Ugh.
The treadmill keeps me in shape during the winter months, but I've noticed that my quads pay the price royally if I don't log enough outdoor miles.
Nope. You're not actually propelling yourself forward on a treadmill, only picking your feet up and moving them forward
does a plane take off or not? wrote:
Nope. You're not actually propelling yourself forward on a treadmill, only picking your feet up and moving them forward
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This training was done almost exclusively on a treadmill in bad Alaska weather. http://alaskasportshall.org/inductee/chris-clarks-olympic-trial-victory/
does a plane take off or not? wrote:
Nope. You're not actually propelling yourself forward on a treadmill, only picking your feet up and moving them forward
Similarly, when you run to the west, you're not actually propelling yourself forward, only picking your feet up and moving them forward. It's similar to setting a treadmill to 10mph and just standing on the belt and having it throw you backwards. Negative fitness, I'm pretty sure. That's why I exclusively run eastbound.
Doug Heffernan wrote:
does a plane take off or not? wrote:
Nope. You're not actually propelling yourself forward on a treadmill, only picking your feet up and moving them forward
Similarly, when you run to the west, you're not actually propelling yourself forward, only picking your feet up and moving them forward. It's similar to setting a treadmill to 10mph and just standing on the belt and having it throw you backwards. Negative fitness, I'm pretty sure. That's why I exclusively run eastbound.
What I do for recovery is put a big magnet in my pants and then run north. The ladies always give me a smile as I pass.
Doug Heffernan wrote:
does a plane take off or not? wrote:
Nope. You're not actually propelling yourself forward on a treadmill, only picking your feet up and moving them forward
Similarly, when you run to the west, you're not actually propelling yourself forward, only picking your feet up and moving them forward. It's similar to setting a treadmill to 10mph and just standing on the belt and having it throw you backwards. Negative fitness, I'm pretty sure. That's why I exclusively run eastbound.
So that's why you are so slow. You are doing it backwards, you should run westbound rather than eastbound. Running eastbound is the same as running on a treadmill!
Brogan Austin, who just won CIM, talked a lot about doing most of his workouts on a treadmill. Will it work for you? I dunno, but it can work.
From:
LB: You do a lot of workouts on the treadmill. Why?
BA: I’m super consistent with having the same environment. The temp is going to be the same, the incline is going to be the same. I can gauge my effort really well. I can zone out. If I run a workout at Raccoon, I lose focus. When I hop on the treadmill, I zone out and don’t think about anything. I have way greater success that way. If I don’t feel good today, I can shut it down that day. I’m not afraid to shut down a workout. I don’t feel well or I’m working too hard, I will shut it down.
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Came here to post that Brogan does a lot of treadmill training. Also Kristiansen like another poster. My only thing is that you should make sure to fiddle around with the incline and speed so you aren't doing the exact same thing day in and day out. Also, I recommend really making sure you do lower leg work. Otherwise you will probably get an overuse injury like I got