lots of possibilities. Pulmonary embolus a big one. Undiagnosed cardiac condition another one.
lots of possibilities. Pulmonary embolus a big one. Undiagnosed cardiac condition another one.
joedirt wrote:
Here is a list:
https://www.ebmconsult.com/content/pages/medications-herbs-cytochrome-p450-cyp-enzyme-inhibitorsOne of the more well known things is grapefruit juice (all citrus have some effect, but grapefruit juice and lime juice are two of the more powerful).
A lot of familiar drugs on the list. It’s very unfortunate what happened and agree that patients should always reveal what they take, including prescription meds, over the counter items ie; vitamins, herbal supplements & ASA products.
Thanks for this list...also to note, the post that has the article about the coach -mentioned he threw a blood clot and the kid had complications w/anesthesia prior to going into knee surgery. (A lot of times patients are given pre-anesthesia & antibiotics prior ). It will be interesting to see what the autopsy shows.
Sorry, I left out a *s* in my handle name?
This is a terrible tragedy but not surprising:
Medical error is now the *3rd* leading cause of death in the U.S.! (behind heart disease & cancer).
More than *250,000* deaths annually are attributed to medical error!
Death by the medical system is now a significant risk factor in getting treatment!
https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2018/08/29/why-medically-caused-deaths-continue-to-be-ignored/
This is partly a biproduct of the move to make healthcare affordable. Affordable healthcare isn't necessarily good healthcare. Providers make things less expensive by increasing the number of mid-level providers and decreasing the amount of time you spend with actual doctors. It's sad that you almost have to have medical training just to make sure the people providing the treatments are competent.
This is why don't ever do anything stupid or excessive w/ running unless you're a pro or at least at sub elite level. For the hobby farters, not worth the serious injury. Anything can happen when they cut you up.
wtff wrote:
A high school kid just died from ACL surgery. How do you did from knee surgery?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/high-school-football-player-dies-during-acl-surgery
Sepsis?
Joan Rivers ended up dead after routine plastic surgery. Coincidentally after she called Michelle Obama a tranny. Maybe these two had information that could lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton?
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theJeff wrote:
Mis-measuring anesthesia?
Gosh, that is awful.
Surprised you are questioning this.
Surprised you don’t realize I am taking a guess at the CoD.
This is secondhand information, but among anesthesiology circles there is news that it was malignant hyperthermia, which is an incredibly rare genetically inherited condition that causes you to react to some of the drugs we use during surgery (succinylcholine, a muscle relaxant used to facilitate intubation, and some of the inhaled agents we use to keep you asleep). Basically it causes your muscles to go crazy and release a bunch of ions that can mess with your heart rhythm, you get super hot, and your muscles start to break down which can give you acute kidney failure.
It is incredibly rare, and a lot of anesthesiologists may only see one or two of these in their career. If they haven't had surgery before or their parents haven't, you might not know they have the gene until they are under and this starts happening.
If it was actually "anesthesia-related" like the article stated, the two most likely causes are Malignant Hyperthermia (like you suggested) or local anesthetic toxicity. Anesthesiologists will often do nerve blocks prior to orthopedic surgery. If the death actually occurred prior to the actual knee surgery, it is definitely a possibility that the patient had a pre-operative nerve block with inadvertent injection into a blood vessel. This can cause cardiac arrest. This is very rare with the use of ultrasound to perform the blocks; but if the death actually occurred prior to the actual surgery, this is definitely a possible cause.
Which hospital did he go to? Any time you have a surgery you want to go to the top people in the world (top 30 knee surgeons etc)
Too many people think all medical care is of the same quality.
When it comes to a procedure like this, it’s definitely worth traveling to see the best people
Medical System Destruction wrote:
This is a terrible tragedy but not surprising:
Medical error is now the *3rd* leading cause of death in the U.S.! (behind heart disease & cancer).
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I do not know the answer to my questions and I think it is worth asking:
Are medical errors on the rise proportionally, or are other common causes of death proportionally decreasing (effectively raising the ranking while not actually increasing the level of risk associated with medical error)?
Last night a basketball player went into cardiac arrest at a game. So sad for this school
joedirt wrote:
I'm not one to believe in coincidences, so either the anesthesia that the hospital is using is mislabeled or the players and coaches at the school are taking a supplement that is a CYP3A4 inhibitor that is causing them to over sedate and fall into respiratory distress.
CYP 3A4 inhibitors will not cause any sort of respiratory distress that any anesthesiologist can't easily manage with intubation/LMA placement. More likely is laryngospasm/bronchospasm or unanticipated difficult airway.
Wtfffff wrote:
The article states he died the day AFTER surgery. The anesthesia is long gone by then. I'm sure an autopsy will be done. Very sad for this young man.
Read it again. You are wrong.
Medical error is the third leading cause of death in this country. Thank to GWB it's almost impossible to successfully sue a doctor even when they're clearly at fault.
Player dead post op.
Trainer dead day later.
Another athlete collapses on basketball floor.
Ummmmm.
Probably suicide.
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Not player. School basketball team manager collapsed in hallway after game. Coaches gave cpr, brought to hospital.
Podesta emails found in equipment room.