That NYT article about a notification being sent to Dr, Brown is a year and a half old. At this point Dr. Brown is not listed as uaving any conviction or being on the prohibited association list. He is still in good standing with the Texas Medical Board.
I have contacted the NYT author to see if he still stood behind the reporting and or had any updates. No response.
Papasmurf wrote:
He accepted centro to catch him and.prove that NOP is dirty
The dirtiest of them all are E. Africans. Period. Kiprop is the tip of a 30 year old iceberg. It's laughable to witness you PC NPCs go on and on about Americans or Europeans or muh Russians or any other PC target while ignoring the worst offenders of them all. What a bunch of brainwashed low T cowards.
Look no further.
NIKE pays.
Someone probably said something along these lines:
"You take Centro onboard, or you and your fucking miles get made redundant."
call me papa wrote:
So on my run today, I was thinking about Centro's switch to the Bowerman Track Club and suddenty I had a revelation. Does this move mean that Rupp might actually be clean?
Rupp? Yes, I mant to type Rupp and not Centro.
Hear me out.
We all know that Jerry and Alberto do not get along mainly because Jerry thinks Alberto is shady as heck and wants no part of a doping program. I -like Jerry probably does - just assumed the group is dirty.
But if the NOP group is dirty, why in the heck would Jerry accept Centro? He would either end up tarnishing Jerry with a positive test or if he got clean it would tarnish Jerry's image as Centro would be no good.
So in my mind, Centro to the BTC definitely means that Jerry thinks Centro is clean.
And if Centro is clean then does that mean the whole group is clean?
That seems like a real possibility.
What are the other alternatives. Could it be possible that only the innermost or key most members are dirty (Rupp/Farah) while other (Kara/Centro) are clean? That's something I've never understood.
1. Where did Jerry ever say Salazar's group was "dirty?"
2. You do know that Salazar got Schumacher his job at Nike, right?
3. Just because unhappy Republitard snowflakes on LRC smear Salazar, does not mean their contentions are true.
It's far more likely what Salazar's group has never crossed the line.
Sabadell tells no lies wrote:
I don't think Salazar has ever intentionally done any illegal doping with Rupp. Gray area? Sure. Not illegal, however. I'd say that Farah likely went rogue in a pharmaceutical program as he started to work closer with Aden. The connection between Aden and drugs is undeniable. The connection between Aden and Farah is equally as unarguable. Draw your own conclusion.
The protocol was with an amino acid.
That protocol is now legal.
Bogus asthma and metabolism issues is crossing the line IMO
This move is basically pointless to speculate about, but I'll do it anyway.
There are four possible scenarios. Either both groups are dirty (he would have access to drugs at both programs, so it doesn't matter which one he is part of), neither group is dirty (he would not be missing out on drugs in either group, so this isn't a drug related move), BTC is dirty and NOP isn't (wants to get in on the drug action), or NOP is dirty and BTC isn't (wants to get away from the group before they get caught)
Personally, I think the last scenario is most likely the case. What are the chances that one group has some drugs that the other group doesn't have, especially since they are under the same parent company (Nike). However, I do believe that both groups are doing some quasi illegal stuff, its just that the NOP situation gets more publicity because of their success. All you have to is look no further than Shelby Houlihan to realize what is going on over at BTC. However, I do not believe that any athlete would dope outside of their coaches knowledge, so either the entire group dopes or no one dopes (which makes things a whole lot simpler)
It is possible that Centro has some inside information that the USADA will finally put the gauntlet down on NOP and wants to escape the collateral damage (although it isn't really collateral since he is party of the group). I think that if we knew the current relationship between Centro Sr. and Salazar, then we would know the motive behind the switch. But there definitely is one. Why, after a very good 2018 and a gold medal two years earlier would he leave a group that he's been a part of since college to join a group just around the corner?
Just my two cents, I know a lot of this isn't based on evidence but besides a few newspaper articles, interviews, and a USADA report there isn't much to go on.
I just want to know what track race he won wearing a BTC singlet.
Anyone?
Eff Starbucks wrote:
It's laughable to witness you NPCs
That's cute that you resort to calling people who disagree with you "NPCs."
Cute, while pathetic.
Get a real argument.
Does anyone else think that Salazar's childish emails sound a lot like Trump?
"Hi Dathan, we are cutting edge but we take no chances on a screw up. Everything is above board and cleared thru Usada. They know me very well because I always get an okay before doing anything!”
rupp-certified saladbar, or shaken bravey syndrome? wrote:
Does anyone else think that Salazar's childish emails sound a lot like Trump?
"Hi Dathan, we are cutting edge but we take no chances on a screw up. Everything is above board and cleared thru Usada. They know me very well because I always get an okay before doing anything!”
All the drug theories everyone is spewing is nice, here is a more innocent theory:
Centro wasn’t happy with Sal coaching both him & Murphy.
Galen runs 5 minutes faster in the marathon then most all the other American men. Add the allegations, the "testosterone" on his medical record that Steve Magness found was charted on his medication list since he was a teenager (which was later claimed to be a testosterone booster - although I don't think these really existed at the time Galen was a teenager), along with Alberto's experimentation with Androgel, and Androgel that was left in a hotel room. Anecdotes that Alberto personally massages Galen that even other NOP runners suspected such as Kara Goucher; and the training of Galen on how to get IV's as TUE's when racing the 5 and 10 k in the same meet. Add the inhalers and thyroid pills, the l-carnitine. NOP isn't clean. They're just coached on not to talk about it anymore. Funny how you hear nothing about the thyroid meds, or asthma meds or l-carnitine or all the other stuff they'd been doing anymore...I doubt they stopped. They just learned to shut up about it. Cam Levins suddenly developed asthma after going to NOP and was asked about it on youtube and responds really poorly and angrily, sounds like a total jerk in that interview. Bending the rules.
I really wouldn't be surprised if at even a higher level if NOP, or any other training groups aren't using higher level stuff as well but maybe not everyone gets access. Mo left NOP to pursure EPO in Kenya first, and then that clamped down he moved to Ethiopia. His training partner was "caught" buying EPO (definitely not for Mo). It seemed like, at the time that Mo left NOP because of the stigma and cloud of doping that was surrounding NOP. I'm sure Steve Magness, Kara Goucher or Dathan wouldn't get to know if Galen and or Mo were getting EPO or other higher level stuff from Alberto.
You wouldn't have to get all these things from your coach either just as an FYI.
riddle me thiss wrote:
I just want to know what track race he won wearing a BTC singlet.
Anyone?
i seriously hope u realize it's photoshopped
Nobody dirtier than the Soviet program and Chinese women...
BTC he thought would be more fun. Probably as simple as that. Doesn't hurt to distance himself from Salazar's possible doping.
zxcvzxcv wrote:
BTC he thought would be more fun. Probably as simple as that. Doesn't hurt to distance himself from Salazar's possible doping.
BTC? Ha! What a joke. You want to know whats awesome? How Solinsky, Tegenkamp, Bumbalo, Bairu all LOST to Galen Rupp. Galen kicked their arses and has better credentials than any of those fools. They would have to cheat to keep up with Rupp. Them and that smirking rat of a coach Schumacher. Teaming up to play catty games during races and they still couldnt manage to beat Rupp.
Armstronglivs wrote:
You're assuming Centro is clean.
Also there have been some unusually suspicious performances by Jerry's athletes look at Houlihan's sudden shift this year into killer territory, Solinsky who looks more like a pro rugby player than sub 27 man. Then there is Jager ☆☆☆☆☆
call me papa wrote:
So on my run today, I was thinking about Centro's switch to the Bowerman Track Club and suddenty I had a revelation. Does this move mean that Rupp might actually be clean?
Rupp? Yes, I mant to type Rupp and not Centro.
Hear me out.
We all know that Jerry and Alberto do not get along mainly because Jerry thinks Alberto is shady as heck and wants no part of a doping program. I -like Jerry probably does - just assumed the group is dirty.
But if the NOP group is dirty, why in the heck would Jerry accept Centro? He would either end up tarnishing Jerry with a positive test or if he got clean it would tarnish Jerry's image as Centro would be no good.
So in my mind, Centro to the BTC definitely means that Jerry thinks Centro is clean.
And if Centro is clean then does that mean the whole group is clean?
That seems like a real possibility.
What are the other alternatives. Could it be possible that only the innermost or key most members are dirty (Rupp/Farah) while other (Kara/Centro) are clean? That's something I've never understood.
According to USADA, everyone is clean. Let's go to the Olympics. I think they are waiting for Mo Farah to retire before a big drug bust is announced.
Subway Surfers wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
You're assuming Centro is clean.
Also there have been some unusually suspicious performances by Jerry's athletes look at Houlihan's sudden shift this year into killer territory, Solinsky who looks more like a pro rugby player than sub 27 man. Then there is Jager ☆☆☆☆☆
I agree especially about Shelby!
emini S&P wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Also there have been some unusually suspicious performances by Jerry's athletes look at Houlihan's sudden shift this year into killer territory, Solinsky who looks more like a pro rugby player than sub 27 man. Then there is Jager ☆☆☆☆☆
I agree especially about Shelby!
Me too. Especially about Jager. Seems to be fanboiism/patriotism to see nothing suspicious there.