Worst D-I Coaches Thread

Bronco buster wrote:

WinnyTheBish wrote:

The problem with Ihmels isn't performance, the problem is WHY they perform well.

The way that he had Emma Bates throw away national titles at NCAAs was an epic coaching fail.

He got there and she wasn't a contender. She won a title. She got hurt and she came back a year later (how many runners that use up all their eligibility do this?) and was a contender and placed high and didn't she say after the race she didn't stick to her coaches plan? You all sound like butt hurt has beens.

that guy that knows it wrote:

IlliniFailure wrote:

Sarah Haveman of Illinois. Incompetent, lazy, and overall a nightmare to work with. In 2017, under Stewart, the men's team finished fourth in the Big 10 XC championships. In 2018, they finished 10th- just ahead of Ohio State and Rutgers. Despite this, she has still convinced herself that she is the greatest coach of all time. When she started at Illinois, she said that her goal was to make the women's team (10th in 2016 and 8th in 2015 Big 10 XC coached by Jones), as good as the men's team. That she succeeded in- by making them equally bad. In 2018, both teams finished third-to-last in conference XC.

Got to second this.

She has my vote as well. I worked with her at Dayton.

Flyer wrote:

that guy that knows it wrote:

Got to second this.

She has my vote as well. I worked with her at Dayton.

They finished two spots above two other teams and she's the worst? All based on a 1 year delta? I hope you don't need to do statistical analysis that matters.

That's how it works. If I took over NAU next year and got 25th at nationals, I would be the worst coach in the NCAA because I could have done nothing and they probably would win due to the returning talent. Taking a team from 4th to 10th in one year is pretty tough to do.

Yes, she is the worst wrote:

That's how it works. If I took over NAU next year and got 25th at nationals, I would be the worst coach in the NCAA because I could have done nothing and they probably would win due to the returning talent. Taking a team from 4th to 10th in one year is pretty tough to do.

So using your same logic, the fact that the women went from 24th in their regional in 2017 to 4th in 2018, she should be Coach of the Year, right?

FactsAreYourFriend wrote:

Yes, she is the worst wrote:

That's how it works. If I took over NAU next year and got 25th at nationals, I would be the worst coach in the NCAA because I could have done nothing and they probably would win due to the returning talent. Taking a team from 4th to 10th in one year is pretty tough to do.

So using your same logic, the fact that the women went from 24th in their regional in 2017 to 4th in 2018, she should be Coach of the Year, right?

I have never heard of this team or this coach. This is a good example of this being a donkey sh*t thread and the OP an epic troll.

I have never heard of this team or this coach. This is a good example of this being a donkey sh*t thread and the OP an epic troll.[/quote]

You and your donkey should get out more.

They were 10th in 2017. There are over 40 teams in the regional so the move from 10 to 4 is not on the same level as going from 4 to 10 out of 12 in the Big 10.

wolverine attack wrote:

Michigan women's distance coach - if you recall Big 10 championships when Erin Finn almost died during the race. She had severe heatstroke and didn't run the rest of the season. Even with her staggering the last few laps, she ran 32:45 and the next closest time was 33:41 - nearly a full minute slower. Dumbest thing ever, if I recall correctly it was on an incredibly hot and humid day too. Neglectful. I'm happy Erin got another season of eligibility, but I feel bad that she'll be using it at Michigan.

Mike Mcguire has consistenly been one of the best NCAA women's distance coaches for the last 25 years. They won Big Tens and got 4th at XC NCAA last year. You must be some coach jealous coach who gets beat by Michigan frequently.

Mike Mcguire has consistenly been one of the best NCAA women's distance coaches for the last 25 years. They won Big Tens and got 4th at XC NCAA last year. You must be some coach jealous coach who gets beat by Michigan frequently.

Or a disgruntled former athlete or someone that didn't make the team.

Pretty much sums up this stupid thread.

You have no clue wrote:

wolverine attack wrote:

Michigan women's distance coach - if you recall Big 10 championships when Erin Finn almost died during the race. She had severe heatstroke and didn't run the rest of the season. Even with her staggering the last few laps, she ran 32:45 and the next closest time was 33:41 - nearly a full minute slower. Dumbest thing ever, if I recall correctly it was on an incredibly hot and humid day too. Neglectful. I'm happy Erin got another season of eligibility, but I feel bad that she'll be using it at Michigan.

Mike Mcguire has consistenly been one of the best NCAA women's distance coaches for the last 25 years. They won Big Tens and got 4th at XC NCAA last year. You must be some coach jealous coach who gets beat by Michigan frequently.

Except Erin Finn literally could have died:

Don't care how much you win if you are putting your athletes at risk of death.

Not Really wrote:

You have no clue wrote:

Mike Mcguire has consistenly been one of the best NCAA women's distance coaches for the last 25 years. They won Big Tens and got 4th at XC NCAA last year. You must be some coach jealous coach who gets beat by Michigan frequently.

Except Erin Finn literally could have died:

https://twitter.com/flotrack/status/995331124976009217?lang=en

Don't care how much you win if you are putting your athletes at risk of death.

Yeah any coach with a soul would have stopped her as soon as he saw signs of heat exhaustion. It's extremely dangerous.

And nobody else in the country is dumb enough to tell her to go out that fast in those conditions in a race that she could have won by jogging.

any real coach wrote:

Not Really wrote:

Except Erin Finn literally could have died:

https://twitter.com/flotrack/status/995331124976009217?lang=en

Don't care how much you win if you are putting your athletes at risk of death.

Yeah any coach with a soul would have stopped her as soon as he saw signs of heat exhaustion. It's extremely dangerous.

And nobody else in the country is dumb enough to tell her to go out that fast in those conditions in a race that she could have won by jogging.

Going out fast in that race was dumb, sure.

However, is she was going to die, she probably would have stopped running at that pace long before right? Like, she could not have kept doing that if her body was shutting down?

Also, if she felt like she was so seriously neglected in that situation, why would she have stayed at Michigan?

Seems like a stretch to me.

Good coach, dumb runner. He didn’t tell her to run that fast and then he wasn’t going to pull her off during the last 400. I was there and it just happened. What do you do as a coach at that point?

Dick Clay at the University of North Dakota has to be down there. Dude is totally clueless about training.

Good coaches wrote:

Good coach, dumb runner. He didn’t tell her to run that fast and then he wasn’t going to pull her off during the last 400. I was there and it just happened. What do you do as a coach at that point?

Yeah that's typically how Finn always races, she's not great at picking a good strategy.

Curious if she will have learned her lesson or if she will just attribute it to the heat.

Never needs to coach or help any athletes again EVER. Male or Female!

Steve Taylor of University of Richmond since 2001. He was at Virginia Tech for almost 10 years before that. 25 years at D1 and he has coached 1 All American male. The talent he squandered is staggering. Peaking to him was: more intervals, faster with less rest.