Dr. DETROIT wrote:
One rule- if you can still do it well into your 40s as the same level you did in your 20s, it's not a sport.
Judging from the examples of Lagat and Keflezighi, running's not a sport....
Dr. DETROIT wrote:
One rule- if you can still do it well into your 40s as the same level you did in your 20s, it's not a sport.
Judging from the examples of Lagat and Keflezighi, running's not a sport....
"2. Can competitors actively and physically play defense?"
I think this one is debatable: Swinging wide on a turn to force another competitor to go even wider, boxing in an opponent, slowing the pace, hard elbow to the chest, etc., could be considered playing defense.
4. Can you smoke a cigarette while playing? With that in mind:
Golf = no, bowling=no, baseball=no
Wolf's Bane wrote:
theJeff wrote:
Once again, in order to be a sport, you must be able to answer YES to at least 2 of these 3 questions:
1. Does the human do most of the work?
2. Can competitors actively and physically play defense?
3. Is the ultimate outcome objectively decided by the competitors themselves (and not by judges)?
Examples: Running: yes, no (arguable), yes = sport
Nascar: no, no (arguable for the same reason as above), yes = not a sport
Gymnastics: yes, no, no = not a sport
Football, soccer, basketball, etc: yes, yes, yes = sport
Come at me.
So starcraft is a sport?
1. I suppose you could say, no the computer does the work.
2. YES
3. YES
Chess - probably yes to all 3
skipping rocks - you might need a judge if you held a rock skipping competition, but the other 2 would be yes, proving how stupid your criteria are
As far as games go, starcraft is about as physical as it gets. No, I'm not going to call it a sport because I'm feeling more a total body aspect needed, but the speed and usage for the arms and wrists is crazy high.
And One wrote:
You need 3 out of 4.
4. Involves rapid displacement (substantial velocity OR acceleration) of entire human body under human power.
This will (rightfully) exclude checkers, chess, golf . . .
There is a heck of a lot more acceleration involved in driving a golf ball 350 yards than there is in distance running.
sport
/spôrt/
noun
noun: sport; plural noun: sports
1. an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
synonyms: (competitive) game(s), physical recreation, physical activity, physical exercise, athletics; pastime
old is as old does wrote:
sport
/spôrt/
noun
noun: sport; plural noun: sports
1. an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
synonyms: (competitive) game(s), physical recreation, physical activity, physical exercise, athletics; pastime
Yea but this is where it comes down to physical exertion. What's the threshold for this? Something like starcraft is a significant increase in physicality over just sitting around, but is still probably less effort than going for a brisk walk.
darkwave wrote:
Dr. DETROIT wrote:
One rule- if you can still do it well into your 40s as the same level you did in your 20s, it's not a sport.
Judging from the examples of Lagat and Keflezighi, running's not a sport....
Running isn't a contact sport so I believe there is a argument here that you can run longer and be competitive compared to some other sports.
theJeff wrote:
Once again, in order to be a sport, you must be able to answer YES to at least 2 of these 3 questions:
1. Does the human do most of the work?
2. Can competitors actively and physically play defense?
3. Is the ultimate outcome objectively decided by the competitors themselves (and not by judges)?
Examples: Running: yes, no (arguable), yes = sport
Nascar: no, no (arguable for the same reason as above), yes = not a sport
Gymnastics: yes, no, no = not a sport
Football, soccer, basketball, etc: yes, yes, yes = sport
Come at me.
Chess = sport: yes, yes, yes
Nothing about physical activity, and what does defense have to do with being a port
1. Does the activity require extreme *physical* strength, endurance, or coordination?
2. Does the human do most of the work?
3. Is the ultimate outcome objectively decided by the competitors themselves (and not by judges)?
With all of the liberal bias in running these days, I don't think #3 is true any longer. Races are basically determined by feelings rather than facts.
See: transgender sprinters in CT and Galen Rupp witch hunt.
Thejeff is like the conservative Flagpole.
runn wrote:
theJeff wrote:
Once again, in order to be a sport, you must be able to answer YES to at least 2 of these 3 questions:
1. Does the human do most of the work?
2. Can competitors actively and physically play defense?
3. Is the ultimate outcome objectively decided by the competitors themselves (and not by judges)?
Examples: Running: yes, no (arguable), yes = sport
Nascar: no, no (arguable for the same reason as above), yes = not a sport
Gymnastics: yes, no, no = not a sport
Football, soccer, basketball, etc: yes, yes, yes = sport
Come at me.
Refs can't decide the outcome of a football game? You Tube The Immaculate Reception
Geez dude, do you go out of your way to post stupid things?
Nobody said that refs can't blow calls. And of course blown calls can affect the outcome of a game. But if you are going to argue that this is the same as a competition such a gymnastics where judges provide the score upon which the outcome is decided you are an imbecile amongst imbeciles.
asdghj wrote:
And One wrote:
You need 3 out of 4.
4. Involves rapid displacement (substantial velocity OR acceleration) of entire human body under human power.
This will (rightfully) exclude checkers, chess, golf . . .
There is a heck of a lot more acceleration involved in driving a golf ball 350 yards than there is in distance running.
What part of "entire human body" are you having a hard time understanding?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oP3viOzEAVgwestsouthrunner wrote:
darkwave wrote:
Judging from the examples of Lagat and Keflezighi, running's not a sport....
Running isn't a contact sport so I believe there is a argument here that you can run longer and be competitive compared to some other sports.
And One wrote:
asdghj wrote:
There is a heck of a lot more acceleration involved in driving a golf ball 350 yards than there is in distance running.
What part of "entire human body" are you having a hard time understanding?
A golfer uses his entire body. Just as much as a batsman in baseball.
All these definitions are stupid. There is no definitive set of rules to define all sports.
Was the point of this thread to show that running is not a sport?
“an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.”
Running does not involve skill. Toddlers run as soon as they start to walk.
theJeff wrote:
Once again, in order to be a sport, you must be able to answer YES to at least 2 of these 3 questions:
1. Does the human do most of the work?
2. Can competitors actively and physically play defense?
3. Is the ultimate outcome objectively decided by the competitors themselves (and not by judges)?
Examples: Running: yes, no (arguable), yes = sport
Nascar: no, no (arguable for the same reason as above), yes = not a sport
Gymnastics: yes, no, no = not a sport
Football, soccer, basketball, etc: yes, yes, yes = sport
Come at me.
More interestingly, why do you use an article at the front of your name? THEJeff?? You sound like a loony.
Track is a sport. Football, et. al are GAMES.
Hardloper wrote:
I consider chess to be a sport because it is a battle and the competitors are generals. Also, if you google the top chess players, NONE of them are fat. The mind and body are inseparable and to have the sharpest mind you must train your body and vice versa.
I also consider gymnastics and figure skating to be sports. You can say it's subjective, but when you see a good routine, you KNOW it. Contrast this to modern art, where if you see a "good" sculpture or experimental music, you can't actually tell it's good.
I love chess. Played in high school when should have been doing indoor. But it’s a game, not a sport. I’d argue the world’s greatest game, but a game.
Boxing is definitely a sport and because it can have judges I’m not sure it qualifies with your paradigm (which i like). Wrestling too. Those are sports. Maybe judges are not the primary deciders of the outcome.
theJeff wrote:
Gymnastics: yes, no, no = not a sport
Good one! I'm done here.