Allie and Brad move to Arizona

Nice production. I'm assuming the "Dreamwork" will be an ongoing series. Already as good or better than Flotrack stuff imo.

Brad is chewing gum. Dudes only chew gum if they like a woman or are dating a woman.

I’m jealous. For the Trans Australia Footrace, all we had was Slovenians trying to publicize Dusan Mravlje from the inside of a series of local pubs! And we had to get Customs to detain them at the airport to get even that footage. Born too soon.

Evan Jogger wrote:

That's a reach. After penciling-in Cragg and Huddle for 2 of the top 3 spots at the finish, Hall, Bruce, Johnson, Linden, Hasay would all have to either DNS/DNF or just crap the bed for Keiffer to have a shot at a top 3 finish. 5th-8th is what could realistically be expected on a good day.

What has Huddle done in the marathon to be considered a shoe in? Based on PRs, Kieffer is closer to Huddle, than Huddle is to Taylor (Johnson). If Cragg can be considered a shoe in then Hasay (PR 6 min faster than Huddle) should be too.

Never heard of Allie Kieffer before.

She looks a bid chubby for a 2:28 runner.

Good thing is that this forum is ladies free, otherwise I would be accused of fat shaming.

Speculation about their relationship aside, the Greater Phoenix Area is a great place to train. Miles of soft dirt canal paths, perfect weather in the winter, 2 hours from Flagstaff. The only downside is the summers—but that’s when most athletes are traveling for racing anyway (or at altitude). I’m surprised it’s not considered one of the established training meccas.

Speculation aside wrote:

Speculation about their relationship aside, the Greater Phoenix Area is a great place to train. Miles of soft dirt canal paths, perfect weather in the winter, 2 hours from Flagstaff. The only downside is the summers—but that’s when most athletes are traveling for racing anyway (or at altitude). I’m surprised it’s not considered one of the established training meccas.

I spent 5 months in Phoenix from September to early February. It was an absolutely awesome place to train. Miles of flat, dirt canal paths and multiple parks within the metro area to get hillier terrain in, both trail and road. I'm sure the summers are horrible but the winters suck here in the Northeast so its probably a wash. At least in Phoenix you can escape the heat within a couple hours drive.

Ok, they are definitely dating. His whole instagram is just pictures of her.

I find this whole situation so weird. Did he really kick Stinson, Orta, and Sid Vaughn to the curb just to coach Allie along with online coaching? Orta is an olympian and will be again, and I think Stinson has a better shot at 2020 than Allie does. I also find it weird he takes pictures of her doing abs in what looks to be his living room. I mean, can they not afford to do their core sessions at a gym or something like that? I wish the best for them, and hopefully she can get a better sponsorship to fund their endeavors, but the lack of transparency causes rumors and threads like this.

oh thank goodness it's not ABQ, thought I'd have to move, sheesh

suuuure they totally aren't in a relationship, he dumps his whole elite team and moves to be with her

I mean why even dance around the question, the more they ignore/deny it, the more weird it gets later

Nothing wrong with it. I'm just sad for the other runners who were coached by him. They kinda got kicked to the curb because he wanted to start a relationship with one of his athletes. That must be so frustrating for them.

Hasay is in a chronic injury cycle or it would be her and Cragg as top 3 locks. Regarding Huddle, it's beyond marathon PRs to racing resume as a pro plus marathon ability.

Never a good idea to date your coach.

Good for them!

oainewaciom wrote:

Nothing wrong with it. I'm just sad for the other runners who were coached by him. They kinda got kicked to the curb because he wanted to start a relationship with one of his athletes. That must be so frustrating for them.

They used to stupidly kick people off the team for having relationships.

I see they run in Papago Park a lot and around Tempe. I'll keep an eye out for them holding hands and sharing an ice cream cone. It's a small city.

More or less weird than drew dating Kim Conley? My vote is less weird because Conley was in college still.

Evan Jogger wrote:

Painful to spectate wrote:

Allie has a chance to make the Tokyo Team.

That's a reach. After penciling-in Cragg and Huddle for 2 of the top 3 spots at the finish, Hall, Bruce, Johnson, Linden, Hasay would all have to either DNS/DNF or just crap the bed for Keiffer to have a shot at a top 3 finish. 5th-8th is what could realistically be expected on a good day.

Not to mention any dark horses, speaking of which I think if Allie Ostrander really wants to run the marathon in 2020 she has a chance to make the team.

Mine mountain...I assume you ran for Bernard’s?