new coach crushing my kid

crumpet wrote:

High school coaching in the USA is rubbish.

It should be about learning how to run and race without getting injured.

About efficient running technique and tactics.

It should be about preparation and the reason the work out is as it is.

Unfortunately its usually the wrestling coach who is looking for an extra couple of grand coaching the 'runners'. They've never seen an opportunity to sweat that isn't of benefit.

I have seen a lot of bad examples of coaching where I am from but the majority do have a background in the sport.

What I do see that is lacking are coaches that are unwilling to learn the events and how to train for them that they were not involved with as an athlete.

I have a feeling that you might be unaware of what speed endurance is? You do not need much. The adaptations are primarily enzymatic to this kind of stimulus. Even sprinters are good at once or twice a month. A distance runners 4x400 meter race at a meet every now and then might be all you need to bring them on.

Don’t be confused with other forms of speedwork.

otter wrote:

crumpet wrote:

High school coaching in the USA is rubbish.

It should be about learning how to run and race without getting injured.

About efficient running technique and tactics.

It should be about preparation and the reason the work out is as it is.

Unfortunately its usually the wrestling coach who is looking for an extra couple of grand coaching the 'runners'. They've never seen an opportunity to sweat that isn't of benefit.

I have seen a lot of bad examples of coaching where I am from but the majority do have a background in the sport.

What I do see that is lacking are coaches that are unwilling to learn the events and how to train for them that they were not involved with as an athlete.

I have seen hammer throwers that are made to go run 3 miles which is completely unnecessary.

There are very few hurdlers receiving proper instruction. Like being told to dive over the hurdles, not knowing to lead with the knee, not working on their cut step, taking off too close to the hurdle, etc...

There are many examples.

Otter: The most important thing I said is that what is missing from your program is what you should add.

I went almost all the way through high school not running much "overdistance," because my coach did

not teach us that. We wound up doing mostly 400s, 600s, 1000s, 2000s, and 3000s. When I started

running 5 milers every day I immediately was about twice as good as I had been before.

You say just do a little speed endurance and not to be confused with other types of speedwork?

I have a feeling you are like many coaches who do not know what "speed development" is.

Your kids will miss out big time because speed development is critical to improvement!

Powerade Runner wrote:

When I first read the post I thought this is too much. Then I read this post and it changed my mind a little bit. But where our your sources. Ryun's training would cause many injuries.

You're totally wrong and have no clue what you're talking about.

I have an extensive background in sprints. I also have a Level 5 IAAF certification in sprints and hurdles. Speed endurance is not the answer in bulk. If you use it too much you are wasting sessions where you could be working on something else. This is the prevailing opinion amongst the top sprint coaches. I am just a student, I did not make this up. I am trusting they know more than you.

Speed endurance refers to somewhat longer intervals (in terms of sprints, not distance. Know the difference!) at a maximum effort with a REALLY long recovery period in which you are trying to get lactate levels lower before starting the next interval.

The adaptation to this kind of workout is useful but it comes quickly and only has to be “recharged” every so often. Distance runners can work on true speed work by doing 30 meter on the fly’s, 200’s after tempos at faster than mile race pace, etc. You can do speed endurance, but maybe once or twice per mesocyclone.

Meant to say lower pcr levels in btwn

Hlpk, you are right. You have the data. This guy is quoting articles he has read. He has no real experience. Otherwise, he would be quoting athletic successes, such as yours.