Completely agree. I think the turning point with Strava was when they started graphing mile splits in terms of speed rather than min/mile pace (I.e. negative splits are now represented by an increasing bar chart).
Moving to paper running logs Jan 1. Am I an idiot?
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old guy 73 wrote:
old man shuffle wrote:
I have almost 3 decades' worth of paper logs. I'll always use paper and pen, and never saw the point in Strava or anything like that.
The old logs mainly serve as an occasional trip down memory lane as I recall what it was like to be a sort of fast local hobby jogging champ. Sort of neat to occasionally recall my good races from eons ago and the training that led up to them.
I've kept a fairly detailed record of my races through the years, and looking at my times as the decades have passed is like looking at my gradual death. At some point my marathon pace became my 10k pace, then my 5k pace. Now I can't run a flat out mile at my old marathon pace.
But you know what? I'm still out there. As such, I'm now "beating" lots of guys that were faster than me decades ago, but are no longer running.
Now get off my lawn.
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This sounds like my story!
Just finishing up my 40th Runners World Training Diary (Runners World wasn't always the joke it's become). Didn't keep a log the first three years of running.
It's hard to believe my modest 10K pace from 35 years ago would win most of our local 10K's today. Back then my goal was just to finish in the top 10% of the field.
Have recorded every work out done in the last 40 years and the mile splits of most races. Kept track of distance, shoes, location, running partners. Used to keep track of the time. I was so obsessed with time that one time as I tripped and fell I actually stopped my watch before hitting the ground.
It's fun to look back. Not much to look forward to...barely running 4 miles at 11 minute pace! Enjoy it while you can. It ain't fun getting old.
It beats pushing up the daisies.
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LOGARUN dot com all the way. Got that classic 1999 look to it and simple interface -- a true GRINDER's, BLUE COLLAR running log.
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Strava Sucks sucks sucks wrote:
It really went down hill fast when they decided to social mediatize it. F them!
They didn't just decide to "social mediatize" it. Strava was founded on day one as a social network for athletes.
It's unfortunate that they won't include some features that serious athletes would want, just because they want to keep it approachable (e.g., total elapsed time at each split), but if you really care, you can use Sportracks, TrainingPeaks, or even Garmin Connect. I still find Strava is good enough for 99% of the time. And if you want to just use it as a log, you can go 100% private and not even follow anyone. -
Composition notebook FTW! But I upload faster efforts to Strava. It's fun to see where I rank on KOM segments.
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SausageKINGofCLE wrote:
Completely agree. I think the turning point with Strava was when they started graphing mile splits in terms of speed rather than min/mile pace (I.e. negative splits are now represented by an increasing bar chart).
It's more than that. It's primarily the instagram/facebook connected thing. Do I need to see a stream of photos of someone's vacation in Hawaii or Nassau? People showing off their adventures, living better than me? People showing off their hardcore training? That's why I quit facebook twenty years ago.
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Zev wrote:
I've kept pen & notebook logs since 2012. I use a garmin watch to collect my data and then port it to strava for their analytics but both garmin connect & strava are set to private. my analogue running logs tell you far more about my runs then any website ever could.
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tree hugging man wrote:
Zev wrote:
I've kept pen & notebook logs since 2012. I use a garmin watch to collect my data and then port it to strava for their analytics but both garmin connect & strava are set to private. my analogue running logs tell you far more about my runs then any website ever could.
How so? You could enter the same content into Strava instead of your tree-killing running log.
Agree. These paper loggers are killing entire forests. They probably write their grocery lists on paper too.
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I find a standard calendar on the fridge is super convenient. Already has each week in a row and a perfect sized box for each days' brief notes. I like to total up the mileage each week in the margin. Gives me weekly totals at a glance and easy to go back and look at specific workouts. The entirety of last years training easily fits into a drawer for occasional reference when needed.
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[b]tree hugging man wrote:[/b
How so? You could enter the same content into Strava instead of your tree-killing running log.
I only source my paper from sustainable procuct that I personally grow on my property . -
i feel you buddy wrote:
Been logging with paper ever since high school. I am a college sophomore now.
However I'm in my 70's now.
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Positive Contribution wrote:
Composition notebooks FTW!
50 cents each. Best notebooks ever!
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I find trainingpeaks to be fantastic both for planning and looking back, if I slow down a bit in my work I get immediate input, "hey, last year you trained at more intensity for longer distances"(you must interpret the stats yourself but it is not difficult), then I use Strava (without paying) to evaluate my run at the same course (heart rate / pace et cetera) and finally Garmin Connect for the same thing, only evaluating all runs in context to a certain distance, but the one I love and cannot live without is trainingpeaks.
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Me. I have strava but don't use it. I write everything on paper
