This Max King comparison is valid. But, let’s remember what happened at JFK 50. Max King set the course record. It was thought to be one of the stoutest CRs out there. Until Walmsley came along in 2016 and smashed it by 9 minutes. Walmsley has course records on some of the most storied and competitive ultras out there.
The reason people say he only runs best in “time trial style” races is because he obliterates the field. It’s not that he’s in weak competition because he’s doing this at competitive race! He’s just beating everyone by so much. And the races he’s done poorly in are much more mountainous and different than Western a States, Lake Sanoma, or JFK. This actually makes his case for doing well at the HM even better.
His course records are stand alone. He is in a different paradigm in the ultra running world. That is why it’s hard to compare him to the likes of Max King and other top runners in ultras. That’s why it’s so fascinating to see him go after it on the roads because it’s nsvsf been done.
My prediction is 1:03:21
Walmsley CRAZY Workout - Will Go Sub 1:04:00
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Dudes. Go back to your Flagstaff hipster coffee shop and quit wasting your time. Your leader ain’t crap in the road and track world. Ultra runners stick to ultra running and road runners stick to road running.
If you think all his ultra runs and records or whatever you call those made up numbers on courses that don’t mean sh*t will hold up in the half marathon you need a reality check.
His PRs are mid grade D1 times. Nothing special here. Get outta here. Go cry to James and maybe he’ll give you a clifbar or intertub shoes. You all aren’t sponsored athletes without James there to coddle you in with his big bird wings. -
Haha very true. Bunch of whiners who hit a trail for a sausage fest each day. Tools. Wtf is cocino boys anyways? Losers
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BangBang Olympics wrote:
Bang bang bang! Jin Walmsley will Beebe well under the 1:04 half qualifier with this workout!
3 mile warm up.
5 Miles: 25:21
2:00 rest
1 Mile: 4:47
3:00 rest
5 Miles: 25:08
2:00 rest
1 Mile: 4:42
3 mile cool down.
All you haters gonna eat the words soon. Jim ain’t getting slower.
this is an example of a stupid workout.
sure it might work, but you do enough work to adapt to the goal pace, and extra does not mean a thing, is a waste.
rather do half that workout at 440 mile pace., maybe a 5 miler and a two miler. -
The worst and most embarrassing part about these threads is that Walmsley is the homeless man's Rupp. He gets played up time and time again like he's going to reach an unattainable goal relative to his ability and when he inevitably fails new threads pop up shortly as if his failure never happened. Within 2 months of this recent failure he'll be just as hyped as he is now.
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Takinadump wrote:
The worst and most embarrassing part about these threads is that Walmsley is the homeless man's Rupp. He gets played up time and time again like he's going to reach an unattainable goal relative to his ability and when he inevitably fails new threads pop up shortly as if his failure never happened. Within 2 months of this recent failure he'll be just as hyped as he is now.
And Rupp is a homeless man's Bekele. -
I can't wait to see what this board is going to be like around 1/20/19 due to the interest in Walmsley.
I recall the live local TV coverage is streamed (and is mostly human interest stories with the occasional shot of a the generic African lead packs in the two races). I wish they would have a camera following Jim. -
longjack wrote:
BangBang Olympics wrote:
Bang bang bang! Jin Walmsley will Beebe well under the 1:04 half qualifier with this workout!
3 mile warm up.
5 Miles: 25:21
2:00 rest
1 Mile: 4:47
3:00 rest
5 Miles: 25:08
2:00 rest
1 Mile: 4:42
3 mile cool down.
All you haters gonna eat the words soon. Jim ain’t getting slower.
this is an example of a stupid workout.
sure it might work, but you do enough work to adapt to the goal pace, and extra does not mean a thing, is a waste.
rather do half that workout at 440 mile pace., maybe a 5 miler and a two miler.
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Takinadump wrote:
The worst and most embarrassing part about these threads is that Walmsley is the homeless man's Rupp. He gets played up time and time again like he's going to reach an unattainable goal relative to his ability and when he inevitably fails new threads pop up shortly as if his failure never happened. Within 2 months of this recent failure he'll be just as hyped as he is now.
Except pretty much the opposite has happened? -
Banana Bread wrote:
Takinadump wrote:
The worst and most embarrassing part about these threads is that Walmsley is the homeless man's Rupp. He gets played up time and time again like he's going to reach an unattainable goal relative to his ability and when he inevitably fails new threads pop up shortly as if his failure never happened. Within 2 months of this recent failure he'll be just as hyped as he is now.
And Rupp is a homeless man's Bekele.
And Bekele has become the homeless man’s Kipchoge. -
I've raced Walmsley. He most definitely can sub-1:04, but when I set my PR, I needed a couple of rust busters just to understand race day at that pace. I think he could hit it out of the park in one shot, but he might be best served to throw in a big simulator. Good luck. And by the way, there have been less talented guys sub-1:04. Remember this kid was an elite college runner, placing at Nationals.
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Kip lipper wrote:
UltraFan wrote: An ultramarathon champion switching over and doing this on the roads..... no road champions would be able to go over to the trail and do the things Jim has done, no way.
Not true, Stephen Kiprotich has dominated the likes of the last Ultramarathon heir apparents in Max King and Joe Gray on the trails at the World Mountain Running Championships and that's just Kippy's winter base training where all of these supposed ultra kings get their ass handed to them by the East Africans.
Speaking of Max King, Walmsley won't touch his half PR.
If running 64 will transcend the sport, you've lost touch with reality, runners were going through the first half of a marathon at that pace 40 years ago.
Max King is a total stud, but on the trails, he doesn't come close to Jim. Look at their Lake Sonoma and Western States time for example. Max ran a really good race at Western in 2014, but is still 75 minutes past Jim's time of 14:30. Idk why it's so hard to celebrate or rightfully acknowledge Jim's accomplishments on the trails thus far. I mean, dude ran a 5:51 at Sonoma, sheeeesh, what does it take these days lol. -
CoconinoTrolls wrote:
Dudes. Go back to your Flagstaff hipster coffee shop and quit wasting your time. Your leader ain’t crap in the road and track world. Ultra runners stick to ultra running and road runners stick to road running.
If you think all his ultra runs and records or whatever you call those made up numbers on courses that don’t mean sh*t will hold up in the half marathon you need a reality check.
His PRs are mid grade D1 times. Nothing special here. Get outta here. Go cry to James and maybe he’ll give you a clifbar or intertub shoes. You all aren’t sponsored athletes without James there to coddle you in with his big bird wings.
HAHAHA. Living in 2011 bro, it's nearly 2019. This post is clearly from a jaded, never was sub, sub elite. -
Takinadump wrote:
The worst and most embarrassing part about these threads is that Walmsley is the homeless man's Rupp. He gets played up time and time again like he's going to reach an unattainable goal relative to his ability and when he inevitably fails new threads pop up shortly as if his failure never happened. Within 2 months of this recent failure he'll be just as hyped as he is now.
Except that he did completely smash the most prestigious course record in all of Ultrarunning. And do you want to take away Rupp’s Olympic medals? -
Dumponyou wrote:
Takinadump wrote:
The worst and most embarrassing part about these threads is that Walmsley is the homeless man's Rupp. He gets played up time and time again like he's going to reach an unattainable goal relative to his ability and when he inevitably fails new threads pop up shortly as if his failure never happened. Within 2 months of this recent failure he'll be just as hyped as he is now.
Except that he did completely smash the most prestigious course record in all of Ultrarunning. And do you want to take away Rupp’s Olympic medals?
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Walms is dumb - like a fox 🦊 🦊 🦊 . He knows exactly what he is doing . Slide into the OTs with a 1:03:4x. Be an after thought when all the “experts “ talk up the trials , then on the big day, make a run for glory. You heard it from the Hounddog first .
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Hounddogharrier wrote:
Walms is dumb - like a fox 🦊 🦊 🦊 . He knows exactly what he is doing . Slide into the OTs with a 1:03:4x. Be an after thought when all the “experts “ talk up the trials , then on the big day, make a run for glory. You heard it from the Hounddog first .
Well, if we go by history what will actually happen is that he will qualify and then choke at the big dance. No question thats what will happen. Maybe if he gets his drinking under control it will turn out different. -
Actually, we heard it from Jim first, like, two years ago?
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Mizuno fanboy wrote:
Actually, we heard it from Jim first, like, two years ago?
Man Mizuno Fanboy loves Jim Walmsley. Can’t help himself. Loves this thread. Fitting coming from a boy who is in love with a brand that hasn’t made a good shoe since 1999. -
If only there were some kind of definitive test people could set up to see whether or not Walmsley is actually capable of running under 1:04 for 13.1 miles...
Until we can figure that out, I guess it makes sense to keep arguing over whether his having a goal for himself is legitimate or, if he is some kind of loser for not satisfying the wet dreams of those who want to live in a world where only sub-60 half marathoners can be considered real runners.
