6'2, 185 pounds is the ideal male physique

The ideal male physique is a LOOK, not a height and weight. Both of these guys could be 6'2 170. One of them looks good, the other...well.....

https://imgur.com/a/h4K7v0M

https://imgur.com/a/kCBTZGB

5'7" crew checking in

women don't like super lean men, very good video down below on it. In nature being super lean is a sign of starvation and being poor, which it is, it is also unhealthy as far as hormones, bone and mental health. So subconsciously women want a man with a bit of fat on him, not obese just a bit of fat. This whole idea of men dieting down to get abs to attract a woman is silly. 9 out of 10 women do not care about abs, they want a man with a nice personality, money, and as far as physical attractiveness goes they want a man who is strong and athletic. Most women do not want a man who is shredded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxOZ2LftOT4

women don't like super lean men wrote:

women don't like super lean men, very good video down below on it. In nature being super lean is a sign of starvation and being poor, which it is, it is also unhealthy as far as hormones, bone and mental health. So subconsciously women want a man with a bit of fat on him, not obese just a bit of fat. This whole idea of men dieting down to get abs to attract a woman is silly. 9 out of 10 women do not care about abs, they want a man with a nice personality, money, and as far as physical attractiveness goes they want a man who is strong and athletic. Most women do not want a man who is shredded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxOZ2LftOT4

It was very close between the two. The ones that picked D, basically didn't pick the shredded guy because he was "too intimidating, or too unattainable".

Watch some videos with Connor...literally every girl goes crazy over him. Now...that's the combo of very good face with elite physique, but literally the guy could walk off with almost any girl right there on the spot and go back with her to his place.

Being super lean is a sign of starvation. 8-10% BF is not "super lean". Especially not on a guy that has 30-40+ lbs of muscle. 8% BF on a runner build can look overly lean, on a big guy it looks extremely healthy because you can't get a body like that if you were starving.

This isn't true.

The bottom line is women prefer rich guys. The wealth of a guy trumps looks, physique, personality, etc. I've seen it hundreds of times; filthy rich guys, young or old, with some of the hottest women on the planet. Many of these guys aren't very good looking, quite a few overweight and a lot have arrogant personalities.

I know a multi-millionaire who I went to college with years ago. He's in his middle-ages now, very fat (huge belly), double chin, arrogant & conceited, and he just got married a 2nd time to a hot 10 half his age! Don't kid yourself fellas - it's about the $$$$. There's an old saying with wealthy men & hot women: "If you've got the dough...you're in the show." ?

Lets Tell It Like It Is wrote:

This isn't true.

The bottom line is women prefer rich guys. The wealth of a guy trumps looks, physique, personality, etc. I've seen it hundreds of times; filthy rich guys, young or old, with some of the hottest women on the planet. Many of these guys aren't very good looking, quite a few overweight and a lot have arrogant personalities.

I know a multi-millionaire who I went to college with years ago. He's in his middle-ages now, very fat (huge belly), double chin, arrogant & conceited, and he just got married a 2nd time to a hot 10 half his age! Don't kid yourself fellas - it's about the $$$$. There's an old saying with wealthy men & hot women: "If you've got the dough...you're in the show." ?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/01/women-are-more-attracted-to-rich-men-scientists.html

Haha, money doesn't matter as much as you think to most women. A top-tier woman wouldn't care about your money because she has more than enough of her own. If you wan't some arm candy who offer's little more than something pretty to look at, then sure, money talks.

First, your post doesn't really disagree with mine. It basically sums up to "rich guys can sleep with most anyone, including extremely attractive women". Absolutely. Having money will ensure you can get laid, or find a wife. You couldn't be more correct.

However, you, need to change the word you use. Attracted is NOT the right word. Women are NOT attracted to rich guys. They will marry them, they will sleep with them, etc. but they will be repulsed (depending on how attractive the guy is otherwise ofc) in sexual/attraction aspects. They will sleep with them for obvious reasons, if you can tolerate putting up with an unattractive guy (physically, personality, or both) your life is set and you get to live a great one. That's not a terrible deal. But it playes compared to the option of being a top looking person...

Highly attractive guys still destroy rich guys in most contexts. You could attract a specific gold digger type of woman flaunting money at a club, but Chad Thundercock is going to have all eyes on him, and is the guy that all the girls are going to be mirin and competing for (especially true for hookup scene like bars or clubs). Just as guys do, women sexually desire and will compete for attractive men. You don't think Melania is physically turned on by having sex with Trump? Or that any of the bunnies were hot for hef? Of course not. They did it because it was a smart life decision.

Yes, if you're insanely rich you'd be able to get most girls. However, a decent subset truly don't care or aren't attracted by that. If you're a pure chad though, nearly every women on the planet will be interested in you. It's a 100x better and more powerful option to be a top 0.01% looking guy than it is to be top 0.01% wealth. You, with a decent personality, get just about any woman you want. So does the rich guy. However, the rich guy gets a girl who is largely turned off by him physically, and will be primed to cheat. Chaddy boy doesn't. His woman is crazy turned on just by looking at his face.

If you amended that to say some women, I would agree. All else equal, money does make you more attractive as a partner. It also, in MOST cases, correlates well with status which is a big deal. Most women aren't the gold digger types that would put up with with a POS, 300lb fat slob, with 3" dick kind of guy; but most will give more attention and be more open to a guy who is wealthier.

Some don't care at all, but my experience is that to most it's at least a card on the table.

Are you talking about a real 6'2" or the average guy who is 5'11" and for some reason thinks he's 6'2"?

You're completely lost on this one. Women are very attractive to rich guys - as in his loot. And if the rich guy isn't the best looking dude around, or fat, or sloppy and so forth, he becomes very physically attractive when a good looking women has dollar signs in her eyes. Lol.

And if your "Chad Thundercock" characterization doesn't have any dough, then these are just adolescent one-night stand gigs...the gal will move on and "Chad Thundercock" will remain unmarried later becoming depressed. Now if Chad is okay with one nighters and very short term relationships for sex only, and not interested in settling down for marriage, then fine...no problem. But unless he's also loaded he's not going to be able to marry the hottest gals on the market just based on physical attractiveness alone.

Many of these hot gals marrying rich unattractive guys, or much older wealthy guys, are in it for the long haul. Many are having children with these guys, even with the old bucks! Women want money, financial security, lavish lifestyles, and not having to be stressed out working at a suck job 8 hrs a day or some wasted career where they're paying out the ass in student loans.

If you've got the dough...you're in show. ?

Ryan Hall Boston 2011 was the ideal. Distance runner looks better than beefcake says my wife.

Straight Dude wrote:

Ryan Hall Boston 2011 was the ideal. Distance runner looks better than beefcake says my wife.

Disagree, Alan Webb build when he was in his prime/ how most 400m sprinters look is the ideal build. Lean, but not too lean, muscular, but not too much muscle, just the right amount.

5 11”, 170, so a bit short but right on the money as far bmi goes for ideal

But let’s be honest that’s too heavy and is just slowing me down, losing 10 pounds would do wonders for my prs

I'm 6'2" and 152 pounds. I do find it easier to run when I am lighter. It is a rare day I go over 156 lbs and that would just be food in my stomach. I usually run 5 miles in 32 -33 mins once or twice a day just for the love of running and fitness. I don't compete. My wife wishes I would put on more weight. Yesterday she said she wished I was 170 lbs...but for me I want to stay light so I can run comfortably. I don't eat all that much and I only drink water so that probably contributes.

correcting the jeff wrote:

theJeff wrote:

Because you are either describing your version of yourself - which would be narcissistic - or thinking a whole lot about other dudes' bodies - which could indicate homosexuality.

I am surprised you didn't know that.

First of all it's 2018 and we're supposed to tolerate homosexuality now. Second of all if he isn't gay, there's nothing wrong with being a little bit introspective.

"tolerate" = abandon your viewpoints, values and opinions and replace them with mine

The world is made for people who are about 5'8". At 6'2", you are going to start having trouble with airplane seats, furniture, clothes and even things like sleeping bags. Plus, the human body is not adapted well to height. The more you are above 6', the more likely it is you will have some health issues like afib, cancer, blood clots or back problems. George HW Bush had vascular parkinsons and spent his later years in a wheel chair. He was 6'2".

I also think the video above is pretty accurate. Women are turned off by guys who are really shredded. All women balance the attraction to well built males with the fear of domestic violence and rape. A guy who is just stacked with muscle looks to women like he can snap their neck at will if he has a bad day at work. And big muscles look better in pictures than they do up close. Up close it is a bit too veiny and lumpy.

nagoya wrote:

With 8-10% body fat. and long-ish limbs (but not too long). Kind of like Christophe Lemaitre but with a little more muscle.

Ashamed that I just spent 10 minutes reading (laughing, head shaking) my way through this thread. Yes, I am 6'2 180, my resume doesn't lie.

theJeff wrote:

nagoya wrote:

Why is that?

Because you are either describing your version of yourself - which would be narcissistic - or thinking a whole lot about other dudes' bodies - which could indicate homosexuality.

I am surprised you didn't know that.

1) Your right that this type of comparison probably isn't a valuable use of time, and could even be detrimental if people get hung up on it.

2) Yikes! You might want to get a bit more introspective about your homophobia.

John Utah wrote:

correcting the jeff wrote:

First of all it's 2018 and we're supposed to tolerate homosexuality now. Second of all if he isn't gay, there's nothing wrong with being a little bit introspective.

"tolerate" = abandon your viewpoints, values and opinions and replace them with mine

So you are homophobic as well? ok