STOP CRYING ABOUT IT. It's over
STOP CRYING ABOUT IT. It's over
Agreed. I can't believe people are accusing others of racism and sexism for analyzing her credentials.
Word on the street is that Washington State's two horizontal/vertical/multi-events positions are close to being filled.
Any idea who's in the running for Brad Walker and Ryan Grinnell's spots?
DrakeBulldogs wrote:
Any word on the Drake sprint, hurdle, relay position?
You'd think people would be lining up to apply for this job, as it's apparently a major stepping stone to a Div. I head coaching position.
Luke Vaughn was let go as the throws coach at UCCS, Keith Vance will be hired. Should be a good move in an easy throws conference.
Jerod Wims out at Mercer per his Facebook
Do you know what is going on at Fresno State and UC Santa Barbara? Are they taking forever to select staff? Any inside info?
Fresno State hired Jason Drake and UC Santa Barbara has decided to forfeit cross country this year.
XC season starting. Everyone giving interviews to the media. To be a great coach, one has to be good at B.S. Even if they have the slowest team in the country, one can always say they are undefeated ... until the season starts!
All right better to have some low level D3 head coaching experience or mid level D2 assistant coach? What makes you more marketable?
OWUOHNO wrote:
Wait? Does Sarah know she actually has to coach and can't tweet about her own running 24/7?
Wait ... that's a good thing. Once a coach gets too old to run with the team, they lose a certain amount of respect ... especially if they are overweight and look like a couch potato!
Coachmmk wrote:
All right better to have some low level D3 head coaching experience or mid level D2 assistant coach? What makes you more marketable?
I would say HC job over assistant job. I have served as an assistant coach at all three divisions for the last 10+ years. #1 thing schools want for a HC job is past HC experience, regardless of level. #1 reason I’m told I’m passed for jobs is the other candidate has HC experience, and after checking bio after the hire, it’s true. My resume had better results, but they had HC experience. Just one person’s free advice...
In my experience wrote:
Coachmmk wrote:
All right better to have some low level D3 head coaching experience or mid level D2 assistant coach? What makes you more marketable?
I would say HC job over assis tant job. I have served as an assistant coach at all three divisions for the last 10+ years. #1 thing schools want for a HC job is past HC experience, regardless of level. #1 reason I’m told I’m passed for jobs is the other candidate has HC experience, and after checking bio after the hire, it’s true. My resume had better results, but they had HC experience. Just one person’s free advice...
It's HC job over AC job, unless it's a P5 school - absolutely, no question about it! When you are an AC, no one really knows what you did ... maybe the HC was doing all the recruiting; maybe he was micromanaging the team; maybe you're lazy and the HC made you get to work earlier; and you probably never did much team organizational planning and budgeting as an AC; never went to the AD and begged for more scholarships; never called on the school's big donors or raised funds in some way; never got involved in team finances; etc. You did some recruiting, but when you're an AC, you pretty much are just an expert on coaching ... that's only about 25% of what it takes to be a HC.
Coaches News Network wrote:
https://byucougars.com/story/w-cross-country/1290120/Taylor-promoted-to-associate-director-of-cross-country-and-track-and-field
The quote should say “this is a reward for not taking the Stanford and Virginia jobs.”
Anyone know how to become a graduate assistant coach? How do you find the positions and do you need to be enrolled in grad school beforehand?
Track Scout wrote:
XC season starting. Everyone giving interviews to the media. To be a great coach, one has to be good at B.S. Even if they have the slowest team in the country, one can always say they are undefeated ... until the season starts!
Everyone is giving interviews? Ha, you are clearly not an actual coach.
Track Scout wrote:
[quote]OWUOHNO wrote:
Wait? Does Sarah know she actually has to coach and can't tweet about her own running 24/7?
There are a lot of successful coaches from the Dave Harris coaching tree.
MassXC wrote:
Anyone know how to become a graduate assistant coach? How do you find the positions and do you need to be enrolled in grad school beforehand?
Situations vary, but you typically do not need to be enrolled in grad school beforehand. In fact, if you *are* enrolled in grad school at a particular institution, the track/xc coach(es) may welcome your help, but it would almost certainly be on a volunteer basis--which doesn't sound like what you're after.
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Otherwise, you basically scan the listings. BITD there were (I think?) listings for grad assistants in the NCAA News and Chronicle of Higher Education; I have no idea where the listings are now, but perhaps other posters can help.
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But even if you find a lot of attractive opportunities, the way you *get* one is either by being a "name" athlete or--more usually--by having someone with clout who goes to bat for you. If you have a good relationship with your own college coach, s/he can strongly recommend you--and s/he is also likely to hear about GA openings that never actually get posted.
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If you've got someone like that pulling for you, you can still help yourself by making clear a) that you're willing to go *anywhere* for that GA opportunity, b) that you'll be attending grad school for the coaching, not academics, and c) that you're serious about coaching as a profession.
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Further to b) and c) above:
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b) When I went to my own GAship, my mentor (coach of undergrad) told me, "Just get the letters after your name." I started grad school very gung-ho about the academics as well as the coaching, but found after the first semester that I had to make a choice: Give the team the focus it needed, and just skate by academically; or the reverse. I was there for the coaching so I let the academics slide.
This was particularly salient for me because my GAship was not actually in coaching, but working for the dean of the school of education (where I was getting an M.S. in phys ed). Full-time student, working ~20 hours/wk for the dean, coaching 40-60 hours--something had to give, and did: my classes (and my health, some).
Others have different priorities and if you're thinking of moving on to a doctorate and later teaching/coaching at the college level, you'll have to give your academics much more attention than I did.
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c) Prior to a GAship you can show seriousness about coaching as a profession by volunteering as a coach at the college or high school level. I did this for several years before going to grad school, and it impressed my UG coach that I was serious about coaching as a career. And I had been a terrible athlete, so this helped.
For *most* people, though, I would advise maybe just a couple years of the volunteering at most (IF you're having trouble landing a GAship right out of undergrad)--otherwise you can get pegged as a volunteer forever. If you've already got a respected coach working on your behalf to get you a GA position, and especially if you're a terrific athlete, you can probably skip this stage entirely. (Though it can be useful in helping you decide whether you *really* want a coaching career or not.)
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TL, DR: To get a graduate assistantship, be a great athlete and/or have a great coach pulling for you--and hustle.
Great SE regional coach interviewing at UVA this weekend.
If they have the infrastructure of support to be great, Dunn will be out.