TheGall wrote:
How insulting. We continue to complain about women attaining positions that pay likely under $35,000 and are statistically under represented in this field.
Statistically under represented because very few apply and even fewer meet the minimum requirements for the job? So in return we play the HR game. “You! You’ll do!” That’s what’s insulting.
He’s just a few green card marriages from getting the girls from eastern to western and taking over the Mac!!!
Oddlyoggly wrote:
allminesucks69 wrote:
stanford staff announced
https://gostanford.com/news/2019/8/28/track-field-assistants-added.aspxOdd they only announce 3 hires? Will they not have a full staff?
Probably not assuming he will make a hire for a throws position. Just 5 on staff.
Lets cut the crap.
Most (if not all) mid program athletic directors don't give a hoot about their track and XC programs.
They hire people who will not rock the boat.
If they hire a coach and 3 months later, that is still the web page headline, do the math.
University of Northern Colorado, fine example.
critic 100 wrote:
They hire people who will not rock the boat.
If they hire a coach and 3 months later, that is still the web page headline, do the math.
University of Northern Colorado, fine example.
Ha, Wayne Angel (Northern Colorado HC) not rock the boat?
Surely you have not followed his coaching career.
TheGall wrote:
How insulting. We continue to complain about women attaining positions that pay likely under $35,000 and are statistically under represented in this field.
AMEN.
Great coach but he will receive no support from the admin. His hire is still on the web page.
By now most colleges would have mentioned who his assistants are, who the new recruits are and their XC schedule posted... or maybe the AD expects him to do it all by himself.
Double Amen! We got a lot of b%tchy men in our profession...
I've honestly seen more underserving and sketchy male hires than female. Trust me, it's about who fits an institution's narrative.
Enough already wrote:
I don't normally comment on this thread, but this attack on Coach Batten, whom I've never even met, is rather out of hand. If you actually read through all her information, she has a decade of experience wearing what seems like a lot of hats across a variety of programs. At a school like WMU, which is women's only, she likely was able to speak to experiences handling a wide array of administrative things. Probably a large selling point in a department that will likely supply limited staffing to support her in the office. She has Olympic Trials experience as an athlete and a pro coach in addition to the NCAA, and a decent personal athletic history. While the NSU hire and press release is bizarre, to continue on dumping on Coach Batten is racist and blatantly biased; I know white coaches who were contacted. If someone threw a middle aged white man's name on her bylines this board would be all over it, particularly with championship wins in the throwing-strong GLIAC. She'll hire event specialists like we all do to oversee areas she does not personal specialize in -- like every other head coach in America. There have been under-qualified hires of both men and women this summer. For this particular university and program, she's not one of them. Enough already.
Wayne State University (6 years)
1 x All-American
4 x NCAA Championship Qualifiers
2 x GLIAC Individual champion
7 x All-GLIAC
-handled included recruiting and program travel operations and administrative duties
Saginaw Valley State (3 Years)
3 x NCAA Qualifiers in direct event group
20 All-Americans as part of the coaching staff
-program management and athletic facility projects, coordinating team travel, managing uniform and equipment contracts and purchase, meet management, liaison to compliance
Marygrove College (1 year)
-Strength and conditioning
Professional Coaching
1 x Olympic Trials Qualifier (2016 - Nia Henderson)
1 x African Games Champion (2018 - Chioma Onyekwere)
Personal Resume
NCAA All-American
USA Olympic Trials Qualifier
3 x NCAA Championship qualifier
2 x ACC Individual Champ
THANK YOU! Scrolling through some of these comments on Makiba Batten's hiring at Western Michigan, I am reminded of what a cesspool this place can be. This board can be a useful tool to communicate and access information, but it's aggravating when some degenerates use it to anonymously attack and demean people -- coaches, athletes, journalists, etc -- they've never met and would not dream to say these things to in person. Coach Batten is more than qualified for her new job and is one of the most dedicated, intelligent, hard-working, and capable people I know. She will do a great job at WMU, and the anonymous bashers will crawl back under their rocks.
Grant Lofdahl wrote:
Enough already wrote:
I don't normally comment on this thread, but this attack on Coach Batten, whom I've never even met, is rather out of hand. If you actually read through all her information, she has a decade of experience wearing what seems like a lot of hats across a variety of programs. At a school like WMU, which is women's only, she likely was able to speak to experiences handling a wide array of administrative things. Probably a large selling point in a department that will likely supply limited staffing to support her in the office. She has Olympic Trials experience as an athlete and a pro coach in addition to the NCAA, and a decent personal athletic history. While the NSU hire and press release is bizarre, to continue on dumping on Coach Batten is racist and blatantly biased; I know white coaches who were contacted. If someone threw a middle aged white man's name on her bylines this board would be all over it, particularly with championship wins in the throwing-strong GLIAC. She'll hire event specialists like we all do to oversee areas she does not personal specialize in -- like every other head coach in America. There have been under-qualified hires of both men and women this summer. For this particular university and program, she's not one of them. Enough already.
Wayne State University (6 years)
1 x All-American
4 x NCAA Championship Qualifiers
2 x GLIAC Individual champion
7 x All-GLIAC
-handled included recruiting and program travel operations and administrative duties
Saginaw Valley State (3 Years)
3 x NCAA Qualifiers in direct event group
20 All-Americans as part of the coaching staff
-program management and athletic facility projects, coordinating team travel, managing uniform and equipment contracts and purchase, meet management, liaison to compliance
Marygrove College (1 year)
-Strength and conditioning
Professional Coaching
1 x Olympic Trials Qualifier (2016 - Nia Henderson)
1 x African Games Champion (2018 - Chioma Onyekwere)
Personal Resume
NCAA All-American
USA Olympic Trials Qualifier
3 x NCAA Championship qualifier
2 x ACC Individual Champ
THANK YOU! Scrolling through some of these comments on Makiba Batten's hiring at Western Michigan, I am reminded of what a cesspool this place can be. This board can be a useful tool to communicate and access information, but it's aggravating when some degenerates use it to anonymously attack and demean people -- coaches, athletes, journalists, etc -- they've never met and would not dream to say these things to in person. Coach Batten is more than qualified for her new job and is one of the most dedicated, intelligent, hard-working, and capable people I know. She will do a great job at WMU, and the anonymous bashers will crawl back under their rocks.
Let's be objective - below are the top throws performances she coached last year for women (no men's throwers):
SP - 12.43
DT - 35.59
HT - 43.80
JT - 37.40
No matter how you look at it, that is ATROCIOUS. In the mid-american last year, here is 8th place in the women's throws.
SP - 15.02
DT - 47.85
HT - 51.85
JT - 41.37
I'm sure she is a great person and an outstanding leader. I'm sure she is smart and works really hard. But it's 100% fair to wonder if she was the most qualified person that applied for the job. Anyone in their right mind would understand that she clearly wasn't the most qualified applicant.
We get it, you didn't get the job. People upset with a lack of admin experience - turns out she has it. Becomes an attack on a 1 year window of performance comparing D2 marks to D1 marks instead. I hope you turned this keen of an eye to every mediocre bro - male hire this summer.
Anyone with reasonable industry experience knows performances of teams and events group are impacted by rolling waves of internal coaching/staffing, recruiting, budget, admissions, facilities, etc. Division II programs are particularly susceptible to waves given many operate on barely survivable margins to begin with.
A one year window is a deeply misinformed way to judge a coach, and further illustrates a lack of maturity that likely played a role in why you failed to attain these jobs you're so jealous over. Move on.
Any word on the Drake sprint, hurdle, relay position?
Well said.
Enough already wrote:
We get it, you didn't get the job. People upset with a lack of admin experience - turns out she has it. Becomes an attack on a 1 year window of performance comparing D2 marks to D1 marks instead. I hope you turned this keen of an eye to every mediocre bro - male hire this summer.
Anyone with reasonable industry experience knows performances of teams and events group are impacted by rolling waves of internal coaching/staffing, recruiting, budget, admissions, facilities, etc. Division II programs are particularly susceptible to waves given many operate on barely survivable margins to begin with.
A one year window is a deeply misinformed way to judge a coach, and further illustrates a lack of maturity that likely played a role in why you failed to attain these jobs you're so jealous over. Move on.
1 - so you admit 2019 was horrendous year for her athletes (or lack thereof)
2 - If a one year window is misinformed, then we should also not consider her BEST. That means get rid of the All-American (who was still only a 44m jav thrower).
3 - 6 years at previous school and only 7 All-Conference performers total - not impressive.
facts matter wrote:
Enough already wrote:
We get it, you didn't get the job. People upset with a lack of admin experience - turns out she has it. Becomes an attack on a 1 year window of performance comparing D2 marks to D1 marks instead. I hope you turned this keen of an eye to every mediocre bro - male hire this summer.
Anyone with reasonable industry experience knows performances of teams and events group are impacted by rolling waves of internal coaching/staffing, recruiting, budget, admissions, facilities, etc. Division II programs are particularly susceptible to waves given many operate on barely survivable margins to begin with.
A one year window is a deeply misinformed way to judge a coach, and further illustrates a lack of maturity that likely played a role in why you failed to attain these jobs you're so jealous over. Move on.
1 - so you admit 2019 was horrendous year for her athletes (or lack thereof)
2 - If a one year window is misinformed, then we should also not consider her BEST. That means get rid of the All-American (who was still only a 44m jav thrower).
3 - 6 years at previous school and only 7 All-Conference performers total - not impressive.
should not consider her BEST year******
I hear they are promoting from within