How did they set up the cameras on the moon and live stream it to the earth so easily and how could they so easily call richard nixon on the moon? All of stuff don't add up.
How did they set up the cameras on the moon and live stream it to the earth so easily and how could they so easily call richard nixon on the moon? All of stuff don't add up.
let us think this through wrote:
How did they set up the cameras on the moon and live stream it to the earth so easily and how could they so easily call richard nixon on the moon? All of stuff don't add up.
I dunno, I wasn't an engineer working on the project. How bout you ask Buzz yourself, see what he says. He'd probably know.
Again, you resort to name calling like the others. Here is what I posted last year about Lovell.
Please read "Wagging the Moondoggie Part 9", the author destroys the Apollo 13 story. Since you won't read the link, I will paste the explanation. Lovell is a liar.
"I wonder why it is, by the way, that the Apollo 13 astronauts were said to have been very cold throughout their return flight in their allegedly crippled spaceship? As recalled by Jim Lovell, “The trip was marked by discomfort beyond the lack of food and water. Sleep was almost impossible because of the cold. When we turned off the electrical systems, we lost our source of heat, and the sun streaming in the windows didn’t much help … It wasn’t simply that the temperature dropped to 38° F: the sight of perspiring walls and wet windows made it seem even colder. We considered putting on our spacesuits, but they would have been bulky and too sweaty … We found the CM a cold, clammy tin can when we started to power up. The walls, ceiling, floor, wire harnesses, and panels were all covered with droplets of water.”
"There is so much wrong with that brief description of the flight that it is difficult to know where to begin critiquing it, but let’s start by pondering why they would have been short on food and water. The mission ended up returning a few days early, so unless they overindulged the first few days, there should have been more than enough food and water for the trio in the conjoined command and lunar modules. And as for the cold, how could that 250° F “sun streaming in the windows” not help much What does Lovell use to warm himself at home – a blowtorch?
"As for the water droplets covering the interior of the command and lunar modules, wouldn’t many of those droplets have been airborne if they were in a zero-gravity environment? Wouldn’t the inside of the module have looked something like a snow-globe? And as for opting not to don the spacesuits, that is just laughably absurd.
"As already noted, without the suits the only thing that would have been protecting the astronauts from the hazards of space was a double layer of aluminum foil. For that reason alone it is inconceivable that they wouldn’t have been wearing them. And now we find that they were also facing near-freezing conditions and yet they still chose not to utilize the suits – because the suits were, you know, a little bulky, and it is much better to nearly freeze to death than it is to break a little sweat."
Come on old guy, why do you continue to believe the NASA/government narrative?
Legit question wrote:
From Pablo Novi:
If you've watched any of the videos of the moon landings, you might have noticed that the radio responses from the moon walking astronauts SOMETIMES included a delayed echo of the questions. That also was a result of the 3 seconds it takes for a radio signal to travel to and from the moon, since radio waves are another form of light waves. " [emphasis added by Pablo]
a) "SOMETIMES". Hmmm. Why in the world wasn't it ALL THE TIIME? This was SUPPOSED to be LIVE coverage:
b) Never forget that there is an AUTOMATIC 3 second delay for every single NASA response to what supposedly happened on the Moon. (including 3 seconds for NASA to continuously-readjust the video-camera on the Moon's surface in order to keep the ascending capsule in the view. And a 3 second delay between every single NASA-to-"Moon Men" and "Moon Men-to-NASA communication. Yet the LIVE transmission clearly lacks this, both NASA and the "Moon Men" are heard LIVE, commenting on each change AS IT OCCURS with NO DELAY.)
Check out "Last humans on the moon" youtube video:
https://youtu.be/cOdzhQS_MMwHere's the description provided:
"Lunar lift-off film for Apollo 17. The television camera was mounted on the rover which Gene parked about 145 meters east of (behind) the lunar module. The ascent stage ignites and climbs, spacecraft foil and dust flying in all directions. Ed Fendell in Houston anticipates exactly the timing of ignition, lift-off, and the rate of climb, and the camera tilts to follows the ascent. At pitchover, the throat of the ascent engine points down at the camera and its combustion is visible as a small bright light. The clip ends as Challenger reaches an altitude of 1,500 feet. "
Ed Fendell in Houston was a quarter million miles away; and any and all information about the actual take-off was, AUTOMATICALLY, delayed in getting to him (in other words, he was aiming the camera BLIND!). Do YOU really believe that he ANTICIPATED E-X-A-C-T-L-Y all of:
i) the timing of ignition,
ii) the timing of the lift-off,
iii) the EXACT rate of climb ???
Impossible? Worse, it's ridiculous!
Stop believing the BS that NASA feeds you.
All that means is that they were a lot smarter in the 1960's/70's then you and Pablo are, and will ever be.
Legit question wrote:
Again, you resort to name calling like the others. Here is what I posted last year about Lovell.
Please read "Wagging the Moondoggie Part 9", the author destroys the Apollo 13 story. Since you won't read the link, I will paste the explanation. Lovell is a liar.
"I wonder why it is, by the way, that the Apollo 13 astronauts were said to have been very cold throughout their return flight in their allegedly crippled spaceship? As recalled by Jim Lovell, “The trip was marked by discomfort beyond the lack of food and water. Sleep was almost impossible because of the cold. When we turned off the electrical systems, we lost our source of heat, and the sun streaming in the windows didn’t much help … It wasn’t simply that the temperature dropped to 38° F: the sight of perspiring walls and wet windows made it seem even colder. We considered putting on our spacesuits, but they would have been bulky and too sweaty … We found the CM a cold, clammy tin can when we started to power up. The walls, ceiling, floor, wire harnesses, and panels were all covered with droplets of water.”
"There is so much wrong with that brief description of the flight that it is difficult to know where to begin critiquing it, but let’s start by pondering why they would have been short on food and water. The mission ended up returning a few days early, so unless they overindulged the first few days, there should have been more than enough food and water for the trio in the conjoined command and lunar modules. And as for the cold, how could that 250° F “sun streaming in the windows” not help much What does Lovell use to warm himself at home – a blowtorch?
"As for the water droplets covering the interior of the command and lunar modules, wouldn’t many of those droplets have been airborne if they were in a zero-gravity environment? Wouldn’t the inside of the module have looked something like a snow-globe? And as for opting not to don the spacesuits, that is just laughably absurd.
"As already noted, without the suits the only thing that would have been protecting the astronauts from the hazards of space was a double layer of aluminum foil. For that reason alone it is inconceivable that they wouldn’t have been wearing them. And now we find that they were also facing near-freezing conditions and yet they still chose not to utilize the suits – because the suits were, you know, a little bulky, and it is much better to nearly freeze to death than it is to break a little sweat."
Come on old guy, why do you continue to believe the NASA/government narrative?
I'm not an old guy, I'm an OLD SMTC SOB. And I'm not usually a name caller, but in this case I had to make an exception.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Legit question wrote:
Again, you resort to name calling like the others. Here is what I posted last year about Lovell.
Please read "Wagging the Moondoggie Part 9", the author destroys the Apollo 13 story. Since you won't read the link, I will paste the explanation. Lovell is a liar.
"I wonder why it is, by the way, that the Apollo 13 astronauts were said to have been very cold throughout their return flight in their allegedly crippled spaceship? As recalled by Jim Lovell, “The trip was marked by discomfort beyond the lack of food and water. Sleep was almost impossible because of the cold. When we turned off the electrical systems, we lost our source of heat, and the sun streaming in the windows didn’t much help … It wasn’t simply that the temperature dropped to 38° F: the sight of perspiring walls and wet windows made it seem even colder. We considered putting on our spacesuits, but they would have been bulky and too sweaty … We found the CM a cold, clammy tin can when we started to power up. The walls, ceiling, floor, wire harnesses, and panels were all covered with droplets of water.”
"There is so much wrong with that brief description of the flight that it is difficult to know where to begin critiquing it, but let’s start by pondering why they would have been short on food and water. The mission ended up returning a few days early, so unless they overindulged the first few days, there should have been more than enough food and water for the trio in the conjoined command and lunar modules. And as for the cold, how could that 250° F “sun streaming in the windows” not help much What does Lovell use to warm himself at home – a blowtorch?
"As for the water droplets covering the interior of the command and lunar modules, wouldn’t many of those droplets have been airborne if they were in a zero-gravity environment? Wouldn’t the inside of the module have looked something like a snow-globe? And as for opting not to don the spacesuits, that is just laughably absurd.
"As already noted, without the suits the only thing that would have been protecting the astronauts from the hazards of space was a double layer of aluminum foil. For that reason alone it is inconceivable that they wouldn’t have been wearing them. And now we find that they were also facing near-freezing conditions and yet they still chose not to utilize the suits – because the suits were, you know, a little bulky, and it is much better to nearly freeze to death than it is to break a little sweat."
Come on old guy, why do you continue to believe the NASA/government narrative?
I'm not an old guy, I'm an OLD SMTC SOB. And I'm not usually a name caller, but in this case I had to make an exception.
I'm also waiting on the scientific literature you have on condensation in a spacecraft, the variables being relative humidity and temperature, with a zero gravity environment outside.
It's great to know that USA culture was so profound back in Nixon's time to carry out this epitome of humanity.
Too bad things have gone downhill since then.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Legit question wrote:
From Pablo Novi:
If you've watched any of the videos of the moon landings, you might have noticed that the radio responses from the moon walking astronauts SOMETIMES included a delayed echo of the questions. That also was a result of the 3 seconds it takes for a radio signal to travel to and from the moon, since radio waves are another form of light waves. " [emphasis added by Pablo]
a) "SOMETIMES". Hmmm. Why in the world wasn't it ALL THE TIIME? This was SUPPOSED to be LIVE coverage:
b) Never forget that there is an AUTOMATIC 3 second delay for every single NASA response to what supposedly happened on the Moon. (including 3 seconds for NASA to continuously-readjust the video-camera on the Moon's surface in order to keep the ascending capsule in the view. And a 3 second delay between every single NASA-to-"Moon Men" and "Moon Men-to-NASA communication. Yet the LIVE transmission clearly lacks this, both NASA and the "Moon Men" are heard LIVE, commenting on each change AS IT OCCURS with NO DELAY.)
Check out "Last humans on the moon" youtube video:
https://youtu.be/cOdzhQS_MMwHere's the description provided:
"Lunar lift-off film for Apollo 17. The television camera was mounted on the rover which Gene parked about 145 meters east of (behind) the lunar module. The ascent stage ignites and climbs, spacecraft foil and dust flying in all directions. Ed Fendell in Houston anticipates exactly the timing of ignition, lift-off, and the rate of climb, and the camera tilts to follows the ascent. At pitchover, the throat of the ascent engine points down at the camera and its combustion is visible as a small bright light. The clip ends as Challenger reaches an altitude of 1,500 feet. "
Ed Fendell in Houston was a quarter million miles away; and any and all information about the actual take-off was, AUTOMATICALLY, delayed in getting to him (in other words, he was aiming the camera BLIND!). Do YOU really believe that he ANTICIPATED E-X-A-C-T-L-Y all of:
i) the timing of ignition,
ii) the timing of the lift-off,
iii) the EXACT rate of climb ???
Impossible? Worse, it's ridiculous!
Stop believing the BS that NASA feeds you.
All that means is that they were a lot smarter in the 1960's/70's then you and Pablo are, and will ever be.
So you reject science & physics now? Why don't you admit that you lost this argument and move on.
aoxomoxoa wrote:
lungfish Armstrong wrote:
The same way the astronauts used air filled lungs, dummy.
The tires were in a space suit as well?
Weird. Must have missed that in the footage.
They don't need to be, dummy.
Yorba Linda wrote:
It's great to know that USA culture was so profound back in Nixon's time to carry out this epitome of humanity.
Too bad things have gone downhill since then.
Yep, the USA 60s were a great time to be alive, for the revisionist historians.
Is it any coincidence that NASA quit the moon right after Robert James Fischer defeated Boris Spassky? (only queued up Apollo 17 went ahead, 3 months later)
With surrogate triumph in brain-game, who needed moon anymore?
No, "old" guy. It is up to you to defend your position in a debate. You cannot, that is why you lost- and making throw away statements isn't bolstering your case.
I heard NASA tracked down Jon Orange and cloned his brain and inserted it into Legit Question.
don't see now wrote:
Yorba Linda wrote:
It's great to know that USA culture was so profound back in Nixon's time to carry out this epitome of humanity.
Too bad things have gone downhill since then.
Yep, the USA 60s were a great time to be alive, for the revisionist historians.
Is it any coincidence that NASA quit the moon right after Robert James Fischer defeated Boris Spassky? (only queued up Apollo 17 went ahead, 3 months later)
With surrogate triumph in brain-game, who needed moon anymore?
Plus 1972, had the famous loss of USA basketball to Soviet Union in Olympics. Ruining their culture of so-called "amateurism". This is why the today's NBA is so keen on reviewing the record.
And I believe it wrote:
I heard NASA tracked down Jon Orange and cloned his brain and inserted it into Legit Question.
Not an argument and your attempt at comedy needs work.
tratlyre wrote:
Steph,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landingsGame day bucket go boom
I know Steph reads Letsrun
Legit question wrote:
And I believe it wrote:
I heard NASA tracked down Jon Orange and cloned his brain and inserted it into Legit Question.
Not an argument and your attempt at comedy needs work.
Dead serious. There is no argument.
Legit question wrote:
No, "old" guy. It is up to you to defend your position in a debate. You cannot, that is why you lost- and making throw away statements isn't bolstering your case.
You are to Rocket Scientists as Jon Orange is to Physiologists.
The question is not Rocket Science. It's Manned Rocket Science to Moon (and return).
Anyone can hit the Moon with a rocket, and dump whatever debris they want there (like US flag plus convenient reflector mirrors). The same is true for Mars by now. Soviets already proved it (1970s Lunokhod 1 & 2), for Moon beyond what we can already in too infer from USA hoax.
Indeed, I agree.
Lunokhod 1 & 2 was basically kept secret and unknown in West for two whole decades. Shows how easy it was to pull the wool over eyes back in the era. Propaganda was Western tactic, clandestine lunar progress was Soviet.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year