Ground Control to Major Tom wrote:
I'm curious to know what counts as "research". I guess you don't mean that you conducted experiments and peer-reviewed papers. Do you have links to the source of original research? Keep in mind the high standard demanded by the "it's a hoax" group -- Wikipedia doesn't count, because it can be edited by anyone (something intended to promote posts that can withstand peer-review, and consensus). I assume YouTube counts even less, as it can only be edited by the contributor (no peer-review, no consensus). Lengthy, but non-peer reviewed blogs, with single editors, like Moon-Doggie, and posts by Pablo Novi don't meet this high bar either.
These debates go on forever, because the "two sides" don't play the same game by the same rules.
It looks like a unorthodox pseudo-scientific game as each argument somehow plays out like this:
Allegation: There are no photos
Response: Really? After 5 minutes of "research", here are a bunch from NASA (with links)
A: There are no hi-res photos
R: What about these photos (with links)
A: There are no color photos
R: What about these photos (with links)
A: There are no photos of stars from the moon
R: What about these photos (with links)
A: But I don't trust NASA because the government always lies
R: OK -- what about these third party verifications?
A: Ha Ha, Wikipedia. Not proof of man. Not peer reviewed.
R: Here's a boot-print.
A: We sent a boot up there and a robot did it, while another robot filmed it. All part of the hoax.
R: Ok, whatever. Is the "hoax" hypothesis peer-reviewed?
A: Yes -- we are the peers of Moon-doggie, and YouTube scientists. Do our research.
Regarding examples of lost technology and regression, the ancient pyramids come to mind. Not only Egypt, but ancient pyramids were routinely constructed around the world, in South America, in Africa, in Greece, in China, etc. Could any government or company construct a pyramid today, with "bricks" weighing as much as 25 to 80 tonnes, using the same technology that was used in 2500 BC?
Science itself regressed for hundreds of years, as the leaders in math and science and astronomy, around the turn of the first millenium, were Islamic, before religion became a strong cultural influence, and science became subservient to religion. 1000 years later and Islam still hasn't fully recovered its former place in the echelons of science. Science itself only recovered some 600 years later, during the Age of Enlightenment, when European scientists started independently rediscovering what had been known and lost.
To some degree, the replacement of science with religion continues to be a constant struggle -- for example recent modern "debates" in school education regarding evolution versus creationism.
Legit question wrote:
I say you are deeply indoctrinated with the cult of NASA and the US government. You are happy to accept the narrative without question. I have done the research,; you on the otherhand refuse to accept the possibility of being deceived. I have an electrical engineering degree, with over 20 years in project management in the wireless telecom construction/site development industry plus a PMP certification. I probably had more physics than you, plus statics, dynamics, fluid dynamics, strength of materials, etc during my undergrad years.
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