The other thread about talent has convinced me that there should be no categories because there is no such thing as talent. All humans have the same ability. Some perform better but it is due to training. Women don't perform as well due to the expectation that they will and the systematic repression during childhood.
[quote]Patty317 wrote:
And I bet you'll enjoy being a shovenistic prick. CeCe has the biggest heart that you will EVER meet. SHE is accomplishing her dreams while dealing with negative backlash such as yours. SHE has the right to continue to do what SHE loves.[
If she's had the unkindest cut, I doubt she'll be shoven anything
Are D2 coaching gigs lifetime gigs? If another coach spoke up about this would they be at risk of losing an otherwise guaranteed for life job?
Patty317 wrote:
And I bet you'll enjoy being a shovenistic prick. CeCe has the biggest heart that you will EVER meet. SHE is accomplishing her dreams while dealing with negative backlash such as yours. SHE has the right to continue to do what SHE loves.
She's a man. Sorry not sorry.
Just a reminder that tennis player Dr. Rene Richards in the 1970's was the first transgender athlete to put him/herself out there. Comics made jokes about creating a special category for her - "mixed singles."
Long before Richards, Stella Walsh was a male who lived, and competed, as a female in track and field from the 1930's to the 1950's. I don't know whether she should be classified as "transgender" in as much as she never sought surgery or hormone therapy.
It looks like the IAAF is prepared to argue in the Semenya case that the male and female categories in the Olympics are not going to be based on XX and XY Chromosomes, but rather simply upon a threshold level of testosterone. If that is the case, and Telfer lowers his/her hormone levels to the correct level, he/she should be allowed to compete against XX women, (or anyone else with the female chromosome level.)
She's a man wrote:
Patty317 wrote:
And I bet you'll enjoy being a shovenistic prick. CeCe has the biggest heart that you will EVER meet. SHE is accomplishing her dreams while dealing with negative backlash such as yours. SHE has the right to continue to do what SHE loves.
She's a man. Sorry not sorry.
The argument that THEY have the "RIGHT" to continue is absolute bull. There is no right to college athletics
USATF q wrote:
What about USATF and iaaf rules?
USATF and IAAF have stricter rules than the NCAA. But they have zero control over what happens at the NCAA and HS level.
http://www.usatf.org/About/Privacy---Other-Policies/Transgender-Transsexual.aspxSchools just found their way around Title IX. Clearly this person is getting a full ride that counts as a female scholarship. I wonder about the few women who have played men's sports on scholarships. I think there is a D2 girl and NAIA girl playing football on scholarship currently. If those are allowed, can't men play a female sport at their college if there is no male equivalent? It seems that we are really only a year away from it all crumbling.
in the knoww wrote:
She HAS had the surgery and is on hormone therapy.
I swear that trans surgery is some of the grossest stuff I've ever heard of. At least them transmen only get breast reductions.
He'll be racing in the women's 60 hurdles and 200m
apparently if you self identify as a pre pubescent girl, you can just switch right away to womens sports, if you aspire to be a post pubescent girl you must do the 1 year of hormone therapy - from new balance national info
hhhhmmmm wrote:
apparently if you self identify as a pre pubescent girl, you can just switch right away to womens sports, if you aspire to be a post pubescent girl you must do the 1 year of hormone therapy - from new balance national info
I choose to identify persons who I think to be males, as males. It's my choice, too.
NCAA Policy
She is currently 5th in the Pentathlon, 3rd in the hurdles, and 16th in the dash.
Hey Franklin nothingprogram.
Can't wait until some of your alums in debt say they identify as someone without a school loan.
At least this means we won't have to watch women's sports anymore.
All you 800 m girls / trans tracksters, even with big swinging d-cks, get ready to line up!
Well, nobody is perfect!
Ole!
Competed at nationals right? did any poor girls lose a title or all American status because of it?
5th in 60mH
itsPat wrote:
Can't be that easy wrote:
He will move to D1 and get a full ride. What are USATF and IAAF rules?
In their last year of eligibility.
21 years of testosterone-led athletic development can't be wiped out in one year, though
This.