I have no dog in the fight but if the coach doesn't want to look bad, he better let her transfer.
Currently, it's looking like he's holding her against her wishes and also spoiling her chance of looking at other schools with that premature tweet. It wasn't his role to announce her new school and completely unprofessional.
He does have something to lose by the way. It makes him look bad to the AD and also future recruits. Unlike you guys, the young talented high schoolers will side with Tara, not Petros...Especially with how active she is on social media. Keep in mind, she has 100k followers..
This hurts UGA track's reputation. I feel like it's a bit petty that the NCAA makes stipulations against transferring anyways. If the kid doesn't want to be there, then they should be able to leave. Period. The coach gets bonuses in his contract for all the SEC and NCAA top finishes, so Petros makes money off her. Go figure why he wouldn't release her.
Tara Davis transfers from Georgia
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How far in advance do think they should have to notify the school? There are only 12.6 scholarships for guys so there is not much wiggle room for the coach if an athlete tells him in June that he is transferring. Where does he find a replacement at that point?
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Amerikano wrote:
I have no dog in the fight but if the coach doesn't want to look bad, he better let her transfer.
No, he never said he wouldn't let her transfer. He simply won't give her a release to compete this spring for another school. I don't blame him at all for that. She can transfer and sit. -
Amerikano wrote:
I have no dog in the fight but if the coach doesn't want to look bad, he better let her transfer.
Currently, it's looking like he's holding her against her wishes and also spoiling her chance of looking at other schools with that premature tweet. It wasn't his role to announce her new school and completely unprofessional.
He does have something to lose by the way. It makes him look bad to the AD and also future recruits. Unlike you guys, the young talented high schoolers will side with Tara, not Petros...Especially with how active she is on social media. Keep in mind, she has 100k followers..
This hurts UGA track's reputation. I feel like it's a bit petty that the NCAA makes stipulations against transferring anyways. If the kid doesn't want to be there, then they should be able to leave. Period. The coach gets bonuses in his contract for all the SEC and NCAA top finishes, so Petros makes money off her. Go figure why he wouldn't release her.
I don't have a dog in the fight either.
A University is still an institution of higher learning. In this case, Tara needs to learn a valuable life lesson. She is free to leave, but she is not free to leave without recognizing and abiding by the stipulations of the existing rules in place. In this instance, those put in place by the NCAA, which she CHOSE to participate in during her college years. There is no acceptable reason that SHE is the exception.
I personally disagree that it makes UGA or Petros look bad. I think her behavior paints her in an unfavorable light. This whole "give the athletes everything they want at all costs attitude" is getting out of hand. I am a high school coach at a large school with a pretty big team that does send kids to DI and I think holding his ground makes Petros look like a stand up guy. He is not the type that "plays around with scholarships and plays games." His only expectation is that the athletes show a modicum of maturity and do the same. Believe me, given time, he could replace her pretty quickly-he is a demon recruiter all around THE WORLD, but not at the last minute. If the program has to suffer with the loss of her points, then the price is her eligibility for a year. It's a fair exchange given her lack of respect for the program or timing.
And finally, both make money off each other. An athlete of her caliber, full ride, IS making money. It's called an Athletic Scholarship. Even in state, it represents a pretty big chunk of change that many would LOVE to be awarded. So let's stop with this disingenuous position that it's a one-sided relationship.
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Demetris Robertson. You might want to look him up. He was a highly recruited wide receiver, Georgia native, who went to Cal Berkeley and played a full season. Some time after, he decided he'd like to go back to Georgia and play for UGA.
immediately, no wait period. He got a lawyer and UGA was, happy to benefit. Turned out to be something of a bust on the field for them this past season but they didn't know that at the time.
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Georgia didn’t hire the lawyer.
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Not sure why this rant keeps going lol. It’s a very simple case of someone thinking he/shemore special than others. UGA had 3-4 track athletes that transferred from FSU and had to sit out a year a few years back. Uga is getting an elite athlete in January and she has to sit out a year because her former coach didn’t release her. Didn’t see any of them go on a social media cry to get released to compete immediately in the middle of the season!!! Case closed.
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There aren't many kids who are bigger frickin' divas and attention mongers than Tara. She's been this way for years. That said, she is nice and fun, too, and a great athlete. But she thinks she shits gold bricks and the world revolves around her and her boyfriend. Her parents put her on a pedestal the size of Mount Olympus. Her ass can sit out a year if she's gonna leave a program that worked hard all fall to get her in shape.
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CaliGuyInTheKnow wrote:
There aren't many kids who are bigger frickin' divas and attention mongers than Tara. She's been this way for years. That said, she is nice and fun, too, and a great athlete. But she thinks she shits gold bricks and the world revolves around her and her boyfriend. Her parents put her on a pedestal the size of Mount Olympus. Her ass can sit out a year if she's gonna leave a program that worked hard all fall to get her in shape.
Great analysis!
The UGA coach is a clever guy that had to have known he was recruiting a diva that would turn into a problem child. But it's all about point production right?
She had many options available as a recruit. Some coaches can be read like a book and you know what you're getting before you show up on campus (the entire BYU staff for example). Other coaches put on a show and only unveil their true selves after the hook is set. She's responsible for her decision to attend Georgia.
Highly unlikely that she would have worked out at any other university.
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Not sure why you are still arguing and what you are arguing about. Bottom line is she can go anywhere she wants and receive training and scholarship (remember when a student athlete signs a 4 year deal that is a commitment) = her power and right ; and UGA can deny her release to compete for another institution until the 2019 season is over = their power and right. They have been on the other side a few time lately too.
Many have done that and many will have in the future. Everyone find another subject to argue about. Happy holidays. -
In general, I think that coaches are receptive to releases as long as they are given appropriate notice. When an athlete has trained with the team and used their facilities all fall and expects to transfer and compete for a new school in a month's time, that tends to not go over well. Mid year releases are especially tough since there is no way that a coach can find someone to take that athlete's spot.
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The ncaa should require a one year notice or sit out. They can always review for hardship but the losing coach should not be the one to grant the approval.
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with the new transfer watch list, big schools have taken giant steps to protect their athletes from being poached and from going searching for better deals.
Many conferences passed a rule where as soon as the athlete goes on the list, the schools can take their scholarship away.
Many schools have also said up front that they will not release anyone - and that is coming from the AD.
In the real world, there are consequences for your actions. These athletes are adults, and therefore must accept the consequence of sitting out a year. This temper tantrum is probably scaring schools away - the points she'll score will be nice but she'll corrupt the entire team and give the coach headaches for years. She exposed herself as a diva and that's a terrible business decision. -
Can someone explain to me why they think the Georgia coach should grant the exemption for this athlete to compete for another school immediately?
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steve dildarian wrote:
Can someone explain to me why they think the Georgia coach should grant the exemption for this athlete to compete for another school immediately?
Because she, like all of her generation peers, think crying and complaining and playing the victim will help get her way.
Unlike facing the realign world and accepting the consequences of her actions.
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Crybaby wrote:
steve dildarian wrote:
Can someone explain to me why they think the Georgia coach should grant the exemption for this athlete to compete for another school immediately?
Because she, like all of her generation peers, think crying and complaining and playing the victim will help get her way.
Unlike facing the realign world and accepting the consequences of her actions.
Don’t forget “Get off my lawn!”
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Did the pac12 coaches sign a peace treaty that requires them to allow in conference transfers without sitting a year? Pretty sure the # is at 8-10 such transfers within the past year or so.
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Both parties have handled this situation very poorly.
On the one hand, Tara Davis could be seen as a bit of a diva here, and part of that is because of the reputation she had coming out of high school. She obviously achieved some great things, and her parents have always seemed extremely supportive to me. But because of her dominance she never really got an ego check. Now across the country at a P5 school in the South, where she wasn't automatically the best member of her jumps team last year, she seems to have finally found that challenge. Maybe this challenge is something real, in which case the smartest play would be to put athletics on the backburner. But to many of us this "outcry" elicits the same reaction as a Claudia Lane piece about how a knee injury made her feel like a caged bird: "You, an attractive, successful and wildly talented individual from a stable home, have never really struggled and thus your story causes little inspiration and merits little sympathy".
But alas, Tara Davis is very young. Much younger, in fact, than UGA's coach Petros. When he chose to be as petty as many suspect Tara is being, he automatically brought the heat on himself, and placed his staff in an unfavorable position. Is it "right" that Tara be able to use the fitness UGA gave her this fall to compete for a rival school this winter/spring? Maybe not, but now it's what Petros will have to do to save face.
Also, let's stop the bullsh!t about not being fairly compensated. She is on a full ride to UGA, along with 29 other women's team members (thanks, 9). There is no "one and done" rule in track. If anyone believes they are worth more than the value of their scholarship as a pro, they are welcome to leave the NCAA at any time. -
Those parents who put her in that pedestal should have given her better transfer advice. Or she should have read through the transfer rules before she took to social media.
It’s not easy balancing a demanding academic and athletic workload, but thousands of athletes do it every day in the power5 schools. Any athlete in her position needs to do their homework and be smart about this type of move.
Maybe she didn’t understand the rules, or thought she could get around them. Who knows. Either way, aredshirt year won’t kill her. She should have expected to have to sit out this season.
