yah I hate crap like this as a Hoosier from definitely a smaller town than greencastle, yah there's so many weird politics and power plays in places like this. I really am rooting for Emma to keep improving under her coach. Sucks but some people got their weird ego and I doubt he's going to be able to come back.
Formercoach wrote:
I coach 13 years as assistant and then finally got a head coaching job at neighbor smaller high school. Was not a teacher. Had great growth over two years with more kids coming out boys and girls then ever before.
I got three football players who were half milers in track that spring to come run cross for that next fall. Then come soon after those guys made that decision the football coach science teacher called the kids pussies and we’re telling girls that running was bad for their knees. I was then told I had to adopt the football players strength and conditioning for the rest of track and for cross country summer and fall. I said no and said if you force me I’ll quit. I had my entire girls and 6 out of the 7 boys varsity parent runners sign a statement in my decision to not adopt the football players weight lifting program. They forced it and I quit. New coaches in didn’t have to do the weight lifting.
Come to find out the school has had turnover of basketball, baseball and soccer and cross track coaches every 3-5 years due to football wrestling coach desire to control everything and principle and AD and superintendent are part of the football club.
Shady things happened at these schools with people in power that want to stay in power, just like our government.
I started a thread about King Football taking over high school CC and T&F programs. Few posted on it.
This is a common problem and is not limited to the way you describe it above.
In addition whoever is saying "this is typical of small town politics," please just stop that idiotic comment.
Every school has politics.
Indiana Runner wrote:
Don't speculate on things you don't know two wags of a lamb's tail about.
"Emma Wilson has decided not to run for Greencastle high school anymore, because of their treatment of coach Jordan. Last year after we returned from the Nike meet the Greencastle administration fired coach Jordan. The school board stepped in and brought him back when they found out his firing was based on the lies of 2 parents and the racial bias of the principal. They forced the principal to resign because of what happened, unfortunately they kept the superintendent and the athletic director. They promised big changes and a smooth year to both coach Jordan and to Emma. Before school started the harassment started back in for coach Jordan with lies and false allegations against him. He was able to prove his innocence with every lie and allegation held against him. Then when Emma chose to sign with Illinois they AD skipped the signing and when the principal asked why he wasn’t informed about the signing the AD blamed coach Jordan. The principal then threatened to fire coach Jordan for insubordination. Coach was able to get the AD to admit he knew about Emma’s signing, but the principal still chose to punish coach, but they change the allegations against him from not informing them about the signing to not reserving the room correctly. The room was reserved by the AD’s secretary, so was reserved correctly.
Two weeks later the day before we left for the Nike meet they fired coach Jordan again. Another girl had a signing scheduled for that day. The parent of the daughter wanted to move the signing to a new location since the coach was no longer allowed on school grounds and he had to meet with the principal to get that arranged. The principal was very upset that he didn’t know about another signing and started to blame the coach. The parent spoke up and said that he had scheduled everything through the AD and not the coach. The AD has faced no consequences for lying and failing to inform the principal of two signings, but they used that to remove coach from his position. This is just one of the many things that has been going on at the Greencastle high school. They have even gone as far as to put restrictions on practices.
I have met with and e-mail the school board several times and they don’t seem to care or want to step in and do anything this year, even though it seems to be racial motivated again.
Emma has decided she can no longer represent a school that treats people the way the Greencastle school administration has treated coach Jordan. It was an easy decision for her to make, but she will miss competing with her friends and having the opportunity to compete for two more state titles.
She will continue to run for coach Jordan and his running club Miles to Go, as long as he is able to continue coaching her." - sayeth her father
FYI, former Greencastle assistant coach Josh Willer reached out to us about this story and told us the following:
"I grew up in this town, I moved back here like four years ago, and I know how the system is, and I know how people are. And I think that Craig, it started out as a racial bias, and now that Craig technically 'won' last year by getting his job back and getting this guy forced to resign and now somebody’s just pissed off and has it out for him and is going to do anything they can to get rid of him."
long time hoosier wrote:
vivalarepublica wrote:
Once a Hoosier, always a Hoosier, pal. You passer-byers have not earned the right to be called a Hoosier.
As someone born and breed in indiana and who went to IU, i qualify as a hoosier. also having grown up in a small, rural town, i can tell you the racist crap is out of control and very likely a factor.
You definitely write like a Hoosier!!!
To the “father”, While much of what you write seems to be factual (I can only assume as much as I wasn’t there in the thick of it all), your accusation that the former principal’s actions WERE racially motivated and that the current incident SEEMS racially motivated appear to be gleaned out of thin air. I personally find it offensive to accuse someone or a group of people of being racist (Mets face it, that is was racially motivated means today), without so much as a scentilla of factual evidence to support it. If you have such evidence, post it here and now. If not, please don’t be yet another mindless accuser of racism. The color of that teacher’s skin, standing alone, doesn’t make every good and bad thing in his life the product of racism.
I am bumping this post because it has great potential for several memes on this board. #1 nominee: "Mets face it, that is was racially motivated means today." #2 nominee: "a scentilla of factual evidence." #3 nominee: "To the 'father'." #4 nominee: "gleaned out of thin air." Thank you very much for your contribution to the discourse.
Parent at GHS wrote:
To the “father”, While much of what you write seems to be factual (I can only assume as much as I wasn’t there in the thick of it all), your accusation that the former principal’s actions WERE racially motivated and that the current incident SEEMS racially motivated appear to be gleaned out of thin air. I personally find it offensive to accuse someone or a group of people of being racist (Mets face it, that is was racially motivated means today), without so much as a scentilla of factual evidence to support it. If you have such evidence, post it here and now. If not, please don’t be yet another mindless accuser of racism. The color of that teacher’s skin, standing alone, doesn’t make every good and bad thing in his life the product of racism.
Missed one:
Nominee #5: "The color of that teacher’s skin, standing alone, doesn’t make every good and bad thing in his life the product of racism."
Coach Got Wheels wrote:
He was a pretty decent athlete at Butler:
Collegiate Bests:
800m (I) – 1:52.06
800m (O) – 1:50.59
1,500m – 3:47.00
Mile (I) – 4:06.59
3,000m Steeple – 8:58.84
Definitely good times, but shouldn't he have been faster at 1500/mile?
Only on LetsRun.
Two typos found (so far).... “Mets” should read “Let’s”. And scentilla should be scintilla. My apologies for overly-rapid typing.
Stopme99 wrote:
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2018/12/05/why-indianas-top-runner-emma-wilson-says-she-wont-run-greencastle/2216225002/Not sure about this one.
This is a lady with some backbone. Good for her! I hope she does well!
Just like Brodey Hasty at Brentwood. Brentwood will now be remembered for quite some time for their idiot administrators. Same for her school.
brentwood revisited ... ? wrote:
https://www.milesplit.com/articles/221255/brodey-hasty-and-his-former-xc-team-is-opening-unattached-at-the-adidas-xc-classicJust like Brodey Hasty at Brentwood. Brentwood will now be remembered for quite some time for their idiot administrators. Same for her school.
you are dense, having the national champion on a high school team doesn't generate revenue in cross country or track. The school doesn't care if you have the best team in the state or the worst - as long as you don't create any headaches.
Any coach in xc/tf that thinks they are special enough to be a huge pain in the ass and and still get to keep their job is extremely dumb. Administration just doesn't want to deal with your crap if your sport doesn't generate revenue.
If you cause headaches you'll get the ax.
Track does generate revenue.
do u think schools care? wrote:
brentwood revisited ... ? wrote:
https://www.milesplit.com/articles/221255/brodey-hasty-and-his-former-xc-team-is-opening-unattached-at-the-adidas-xc-classicJust like Brodey Hasty at Brentwood. Brentwood will now be remembered for quite some time for their idiot administrators. Same for her school.
you are dense, having the national champion on a high school team doesn't generate revenue in cross country or track. The school doesn't care if you have the best team in the state or the worst - as long as you don't create any headaches.
Any coach in xc/tf that thinks they are special enough to be a huge pain in the ass and and still get to keep their job is extremely dumb. Administration just doesn't want to deal with your crap if your sport doesn't generate revenue.
If you cause headaches you'll get the ax.
Schools do care about PR and having strong Athletics is good for PR. Get smarter, bro.
GBohannon wrote:
do u think schools care? wrote:
you are dense, having the national champion on a high school team doesn't generate revenue in cross country or track. The school doesn't care if you have the best team in the state or the worst - as long as you don't create any headaches.
Any coach in xc/tf that thinks they are special enough to be a huge pain in the ass and and still get to keep their job is extremely dumb. Administration just doesn't want to deal with your crap if your sport doesn't generate revenue.
If you cause headaches you'll get the ax.
Schools do care about PR and having strong Athletics is good for PR. Get smarter, bro.
Although I do agree with your second paragraph. The first paragraph is not even close to accurate though. Schools certainly care about the performance of their teams.
My team won state XC this fall but the AD is still way more focused on football. He would dump the coach in a second if he even looked at him wrong.
I dont think any high school sports generate revenue. Unless your talking abiut those private schools that recruit players from all over the country like IMG academy and Mater Dei.
Parent at GHS wrote:
Two typos found (so far).... “Mets” should read “Let’s”. And scentilla should be scintilla. My apologies for overly-rapid typing.
Just wanted to point out that hyphens are never used after words that end in "-ly."
Keep the hits coming.
Well, aren’t you the little grammar nazi? At least I now know you focus more on the grammar than then meaning of the text itself. Well done...you must be a liberal.
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
