Kenyan EPO doper Kipyegon Bett (800m) hit with 4-year ban from Athletics Integrity Unit (AIU)

Coevett wrote:

Thoughts wrote:

El K, what would you be hoping for in another site? Something that never mentions how sauced up a lot of the top runners are?

There is literally no site other than Letsrun where people like Bett will be defended or where it will be claimed that the doping busts in Kenya 'prove that Brits (it's always the Brits) and others dope even more. No other site where if somebody like me reveals that Bett' s coach had another athlete suspended for doping and then died age 20, I get accused of racism by a Kenyan runner (El k) or of 'showing my ignorance' by doping apologist creatures such as Spade Detector.

You are insane.

Your original statement was "And the Westerners aren't testing positive for dope while the Africans are". It is not cheesy, or trolling to point out that this not even close to a true statement. I'm appalled by any doping. I'm in favor of a 4 year ban for Bett, and even an 8-year ban for the double infraction, if the timing had been different.

Remember when he pushed the line that it was only woman who were past it getting busted? Oh those were the days.

000 wrote:

Coevett wrote:

There is literally no site other than Letsrun where people like Bett will be defended or where it will be claimed that the doping busts in Kenya 'prove that Brits (it's always the Brits) and others dope even more. No other site where if somebody like me reveals that Bett' s coach had another athlete suspended for doping and then died age 20, I get accused of racism by a Kenyan runner (El k) or of 'showing my ignorance' by doping apologist creatures such as Spade Detector.

You are insane.

Hi Spade Detector! So why don't you try posting your kind of comments elsewhere, and see what reaction you get? Maybe there's a cycling pro-doping forum or something where you and El K could feel at home, but I have not seen any other running site or forum where these kind of insane comments are even there, let alone almost the majority as in here.

Supposing somebody like Kyle Langford or Jake Wightman were busted for EPO, and it turned out their training partner had already been sent home from the Olympics for presenting their manager's pi$$ as their urine sample, and that their coach had had another athlete suspended for EPO and who died suddenly at 20 (and who despite this was made coach of the Commonwealth team this year), and all this in the same year as multiple other middle-distance British stars had been busted. Do you think ANYONE here would be defending British middle-distance running, or taking it seriously for the next 20 years or ever again? I certainly wouldn't, let alone screaming that it proves Kenyans dope even more, or that it's racist and ignorant to assume the 20 year old athlete died of doping, or I desperately wanted to find an alternative forum where they didn't mention these things.

Mate, I truly feel uncomfortable even acknowledging you here now. It's one thing to weirdly and obsessively defend Kenyan runners after all the doping busts and corruption, it's a new low entirely to be outraged at me, for revealing that Bett's coach had a junior star also busted for EPO who then died at age 20 and WHO WAS THEN MADE COACH OF THE KENYAN 2018 COMMONWEALTH TEAM. You're a slug.

Hey Rekrunner, what do you think of Bett's coach being manager of the Kenyan Commonwealth team this year? The same coach who had already had an athlete suspended for EPO use and who died suddenly at age 20? Do you agree with the Spade Defecator that I'm committing a logical fallacy here, and that there is nothing important in this?

Why not? Looks like the girl wasn't well for a while. It's tragic when anyone dies so young.

Coevett wrote:

Hey Rekrunner, what do you think of Bett's coach being manager of the Kenyan Commonwealth team this year? The same coach who had already had an athlete suspended for EPO use and who died suddenly at age 20? Do you agree with the Spade Defecator that I'm committing a logical fallacy here, and that there is nothing important in this?

Another drug abusing stick figure.

Not sure I ever said "only women". After all, Hellebuyck was an aging master when he took EPO. Kiprop might be another example. Not sure I ever said "only ... past it", either. Lately I've been saying that the faith in doping is deep, and wide, and even goes to the top.

Subway Surfers wrote:

Remember when he pushed the line that it was only woman who were past it getting busted? Oh those were the days.

Not me buddy. You’ve yet to provide any doping apologist statements from me.

Here are some examples of your advertising your ignorance, to support my claim...

1) You posted a pic from twitter to accuse Elijah Manangoi of being an age cheat - it wasn’t him.

2) You criticized a runner for following drug cheat Bett on Twitter, as if that means anything, but it was Nicholas Bett that he was following, who died in a car crash and was not a drug cheat.

3) You think Iwan Thomas is the clean world record holder.

That is just the iceberg of support for my calling you ignorant. My claim has nothing to do with our mutual goal of a clean sport.

*sorry it was George Manangoi you accused of being an age cheat with a picture that wasn’t him (or Elijah).

He is a coward who never replies when shown his lies.

I wouldn't generally find myself in agreement with rekrunner but the current focus on Kenyan doping shouldn't blind anyone to the pervasiveness of the problem in all countries and across all sports. Better doping controls may suppress the practice but don't eliminate it. Masking has been in existence for almost twenty years. We know that dopers can find ways to beat the bio passport. The only real race in track today is between doping and detection - and the dopers are still winning.

El Keniano wrote:

Kenyan with a K wrote:

LRC let it run with the Troll Headline "Kenyan EPO doper", guaranteed to cissure the population.

This +100%. I saw exactly what they did there which is why I’m deliberately not partaking in this racist trollfest of a thread. I’d heard new stuff about this kid and his case that might have provided a new ‘A-Ha!’ moment but I’ll let them dig it up for themselves ... if it ever comes to light.

Boy, I hate that there’s no viable alternative to this site.

El Keniano,

Do I misunderstand, or do you know of something that could exonerate him? If you have evidence of such things, should you not put it to the relevant authorities?

spade detector wrote:

*sorry it was George Manangoi you accused of being an age cheat with a picture that wasn’t him (or Elijah).

Haha, classic, accuse someone of doing something, then do it yourself, or, don't do as I do, do as I say.

If you think those are equitable demonstrations of ignorance then I question your comprehension.

spade detector wrote:

If you think those are equitable demonstrations of ignorance then I question your comprehension.

Haha, an equitable demonstration of ignorance, not "demonstrations" plural, i.e. an equitable demonstration of ignorance on your part.

Question all you like. wrote:

spade detector wrote:

If you think those are equitable demonstrations of ignorance then I question your comprehension.

Haha, an equitable demonstration of ignorance, not "demonstrations" plural, i.e. an equitable demonstration of ignorance on your part.

How are you today, Coevett? :)

spade detector wrote:

If you think those are equitable demonstrations of ignorance then I question your comprehension.

FMD, didn't take you long to jump on to that one, a post on thread that was languishing on page 2 and you jump on with a reply four minutes later, must have hit a sensitive nerve, haha.

By the way, using wordy bullshit to deflect from your stupidity doesn't make you look smart, it just confirms your stupidity.

You JuJu wannabe wrote:

El Keniano,

Do I misunderstand, or do you know of something that could exonerate him? If you have evidence of such things, should you not put it to the relevant authorities?

He is just pulling a rekrunner. No way he really thinks Bett or Kiprop are not career dopers.