Tuohy knee injury

What a great, topical post about yourself in this thread about a high school runner.

I have no idea if she's overtrained, undertrained, or SUPER overtrained. But I don't understand why you think the comparatively low number of races she's run is relevant. You can overtrain without ever racing. Her coach could have her running hard workouts and not back her off enough ahead of races since he's told her to run them as "hard tempos" and he thinks the wear and tear will be insignificant. We just can't know.

kmaclam wrote:

Isidfjfjfjfi wrote:

SUPER overtrained

Do tell.....I've got an average of 13 races thus far this X-C season for female athletes in N.Y. and Pa. while Touhy's done 7 (most of which have been purported 'hard workouts' or hard tempos).

Smacky the Regulator wrote:

TruDat wrote:

Wow, that was deep. Athletes get injured sometime, I'll have to remember that one.

Good boy. You'll look less ignorant. ;-)

Hi Smacky boy!:). Ever break 4 hours yet? Nope, keep at it ole fella, you'll look less triggered.

kmaclam wrote:

Isidfjfjfjfi wrote:

SUPER overtrained

Do tell.....I've got an average of 13 races thus far this X-C season for female athletes in N.Y. and Pa. while Touhy's done 7 (most of which have been purported 'hard workouts' or hard tempos).

Duh!!! Because they weren't hard workouts, idiot! Only you'd believe that one. Grow a pair, you're just coaching high school kids because you weren't good enough to coach in college.

Yes, I love how folks think if you only race occasionally that everything will be alright, then they go ahead and train like a nut in-between the occasional race. This happens often at the NCAA level, teams race once every two or three weeks and run workouts that are harder than the extra race or two would be.

The kid is a stud, really sound form and all. But, she trains way too hard in my opinion.

Triggered Smacky BOy:) wrote:

Hi Smacky boy!:). Ever break 4 hours yet? Nope, keep at it ole fella, you'll look less triggered.

Heh...that seemed like "triggered' to you, sweety?

You better stay inside where it's safe, pusscookie.

da truth.. wrote:

The kid is a stud, really sound form and all. But, she trains way too hard in my opinion.

Can you provide a synopsis of her training for the board complete with sample weeks so we can form an opinion as well?

TTH wrote:

da truth.. wrote:

The kid is a stud, really sound form and all. But, she trains way too hard in my opinion.

Can you provide a synopsis of her training for the board complete with sample weeks so we can form an opinion as well?

This article gives some info:

Athletes get injured. Happens to everyone at some point.

None of us knows whether it’s due to over training, over racing, or something as simple as a bad step.

Some of y’all crying ‘doomsday’ need to chill tf out and stop.

TTH wrote:

da truth.. wrote:

The kid is a stud, really sound form and all. But, she trains way too hard in my opinion.

Can you provide a synopsis of her training for the board complete with sample weeks so we can form an opinion as well?

It's a free country, form your own opinion if you would like based on whatever info you have.

Nobody knows anything

...and we wonder why most every quality poster has long ago left these boards. What a freak show.

definitely not overtrained, she runs like 35 miles pw. just a hiccup surely like everyone gets

touuuuey wrote:

definitely not overtrained, she runs like 35 miles pw. just a hiccup surely like everyone gets

Hopefully a hiccup,

But not sure I buy 35 miles a week after reading the SI article. Her perfect day is 10 mile run and time at the gym. She's "always moving". Numerous time they talk about her trying to get to the gym and also that her coaches have to tell her less amount and slower paces cause they know she will go farther or faster than they ask.

kmaclam wrote:

...and we wonder why most every quality poster has long ago left these boards. What a freak show.

*I don't agree at all. I've read a lot of this thread. Some people simply don't like someone disagreeing with them. They come back with barbs and get them back in return, then it gets nasty.

*A lot of people, including you, feel that you've got the right answer to anything running related and can't take criticism. You then call the person a troll to make yourself feel good. I've read the comments about Tuohy and "workout" versus "race". None of you have the right answer but because a coach is quoted saying something, you take it as gospel. I'm a coach, games are certainly played thru the season.

*I've been to many cross country races, 100's in fact, and I agree that it's pretty obvious when someone is claiming to have had 15-20 seconds left in the tank, they've pretty much raced the course and that's not a workout. Happily have an IP check done on me, I encourage it. This is my first post on this thread. I think you are part of the hypocrisy (freak show) that you allude to as all of your posts are certainly not quality.

Now rip away, as that's the basis for these forums.

da truth... wrote:

TTH wrote:

Can you provide a synopsis of her training for the board complete with sample weeks so we can form an opinion as well?

It's a free country, form your own opinion if you would like based on whatever info you have.

So you have no answer as to why she's training "too hard".

As we suspected.

So, does anyone know the diagnosis or mechanism of injury?

I must have missed it in this thread, but from the get go it seems like many a person is placing blame with minimal factual information.

Not a ton of details, just says "knee tendonitis".

https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/high-school/xcountry/2018/11/04/cross-country-katelyn-tuohy-less-north-rockland-section-1/1829980002/

I had that for a long time. She can do quad strengthening exercises with ankle weights or just the calf extension machine, starting at a very low weight.