Boulder, why? 1 word...Droddy, Nuff said
Boulder, why? 1 word...Droddy, Nuff said
Boldstaff wrote:
It sounds like boulder is the place for me. What are some of the good places around town like restaurants and such? And is there a map or way online to find some good trails?
It's a major college town, so lots of good choices for burgers, pizza, burritos, sandos, plus an incredible brewery scene.
im at work wrote:
and are you looking for flat or hilly? if you're looking for hilly download the trailforks app, if youre looking for flat go to fleet feet and talk to noah droddy
Fleet Feet closed down months ago. Noah moved on.
Boulder is more expensive
helpy wrote:
Albuquerque
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Boldstaff wrote:
Regardless of where I went I think it would be more beneficial to live at altitude full time, but I need to do more research on that
Research "live high, train low"
HigherThanThou wrote:
FFF wrote:
I'm at 1000 feet and can get to 8000 in 30 minutes. And no snow (at 1000). But go ahead, go to Boulder.
....But can you wake before sunrise, road bike Left Hand canyon to peak to peak, park @ Longs Peak trail head, do a 22 mile run to 14,200 ft and back to trailhead, cycle downhill all the way back to Boulder and drink beers by happy hour?
its actually closer to a 14 mile run if you're just following the keyhole route .
guy who assumes a lot wrote:
Boulder is more expensive
major understatement
I’ve never been to Flagstaff but as far as running Boulder is great. Mountain running to soft surface trails and miles of bike paths it’s really ideal for the runner. Plus many open tracks. I realized how great the running was when I moved and I’m running on concrete sidewalks in the suburbs and it ain’t as enjoyable.
It is pricey though so be prepared for that but maybe that isn’t an issue. The spring can suck as far as snow and weather but it’s been pretty mild through the years contrary to what it may seem.
Plus your a short drive to the city and or the mnt towns. Lots to do in Boulder and groups to run with.
Davidson Mesa in Louisville is a 3 mile soft dirt loop where many groups do Intervals.
Boulder creek path
Switzerland (soft trail up mountain)
Batasso: single trail in mnt
Wonderland lake
Chataqua Park
Dowdy draw
Bobolink trail
Magnolia rd
Rollinsville
Cottonwood Trail
Sugarloaf
Gold Hill
Mnt Sanitas
Man the list goes on...
CU xc course (connects to bobolink)
More in Louisville, Broomfield too
Old luna tic wrote:
Old Mountain runner wrote:
I disagree with this. Flagstaff is 6909 ft high, Boulder 5,328.
You always want to live in the lower places. Altitude is overrated for training. There is a huge difference if you move for a big training block into altitude for a month or two, or if you actually live there so high. Altitude makes you slower unless you just do high altitude trail races then it can be very beneficial.
I always wondered why those Kenyans living in iten were so slow. Thanks for clarifying
Never been to flag, but have heard good things plus I agree with that 7k mark as being ideal. Boulder is quite expensive, but can be really affordable if you live like 8 miles away in Niwot or Longmont. Tons of trails throughout the county. I always thought it would be cool to live up in Nederland (20 or so miles west of Boulder up Boulder Canyon Dr.) At like 8k and then drop down to Boulder a few times per week for track/threshold work
The formula is (Live High----Train Low).
flyonthewall wrote:
The formula is (Live High----Train Low).
What kind of formula is that?
YeahNo wrote:
im at work wrote:
and are you looking for flat or hilly? if you're looking for hilly download the trailforks app, if youre looking for flat go to fleet feet and talk to noah droddy
Fleet Feet closed down months ago. Noah moved on.
Droddy is/was/has always been bigger than Fleet Feet. He still lives and trains in Boulder. Currently assistant coaching at Boulder High School, in addition to being a running Beacon for the town.
Flagstaff, hands down. Live high, train low is possible in Flagstaff (just drive to Sedona or Phoenix), but not Boulder.
Also, the weather in Flagstaff can get kind of cold, but is not nearly as harsh as in Boulder.
In Boulder, there was always the danger that Lee Troop would try to coach you. Now you just have to watch out for Brad Hudson trying to coach you, if that happens you could wind up Stinsoned.
Check out Taos NM... rent in Ski Village @ 10000'... train on great trails/roads @ 7000'.... great community support, fun bars, great food!!!!
Boulder- too many trust fund babies (who are now full grown). Stick with AZ.
critic 100 wrote:
Boulder- too many trust fund babies (who are now full grown). Stick with AZ.
I've been back and forth between Flagstaff and Phoenix since 1997. As a non-elite runner and someone not in a specific running group, I don't really see the difference between Flagstaff, Boulder, Albuquerque and so on. Yes, Flagstaff is outstanding for running.. you walk out the door and you're near a running trail. It's very rarely flat, the weather is great, air is clear, everyone is nice, etc. I would choose Flagstaff over pretty much any city in the USA because I like it for a lot of reasons.
However, I go up there and it's all solo. There are a ton of runners up there, but unless you're part of the group, you will probably be on your own. It's not like Iten where every morning, 200 runners meet at the corner and all run together. So you might as well live somewhere you like in general, not just for the running. The big advantages to places like Boulder, Flagstaff, Iten Kenya, Portland etc are the groups and group training. If you follow the Hoka Elite group, they really make Flagstaff look like the running mecca of the universe.. but when I go there, which is quite often (have a cabin there), I never see anyone running. It's just me out on the roads by myself, or with a friend or two.
Hence the reason (I believe) why Ryan and Sara Hall bounce all over the place, because if you are training solo, high elevation is high elevation.. and most high elevation places have enough forest roads to accommodate your running needs.
Big Bear, Flagstaff, Mammoth Lakes, Albuquerque, Santa Fe (awesome place btw), Boulder, Denver, the list goes on. All are great places to run, but none really stand out as being much "better" for training unless you are part of a group that trains there.