Abraham Kiptum WORLD RECORD 58:18 Half Marathon

Yes, I find that interesting about how the British women have continued to improve. It's a bit like seeing that the Russian female athletes, and particularly their distance runners, were outperforming their men. In the Russian case, it may be because women are better responders. In the British case?...

Can any of you morons read the thread title?

You conspiracy theorists just have to talk about doping every time a Kenyan does something of relevance.

Bunch of racist morons you all.

I will enjoy every Kenyan victory/great result even more knowing how butthurt you will all be.

reqherujhetyjryryjry wrote:

Can any of you morons read the thread title?

You conspiracy theorists just have to talk about doping every time a Kenyan does something of relevance.

Bunch of racist morons you all.

I will enjoy every Kenyan victory/great result even more knowing how butthurt you will all be.

The thread title is just longhand for - yet another doper.

Armstronglivs wrote:

reqherujhetyjryryjry wrote:

Can any of you morons read the thread title?

You conspiracy theorists just have to talk about doping every time a Kenyan does something of relevance.

Bunch of racist morons you all.

I will enjoy every Kenyan victory/great result even more knowing how butthurt you will all be.

The thread title is just longhand for - yet another doper.

Armstronglivs is just longhand for - yet another LRC racist idiot.

But it's OK. You go on talking about how all Kenyans are doping while I, El Keniano and others will be celebrating Kenyan victories and amazing results.

We will also be celebrating when dopers are caught, Kenyan or not.

reqherujhetyjryryjry wrote:

Can any of you morons read the thread title?

You conspiracy theorists just have to talk about doping every time a Kenyan does something of relevance.

Bunch of racist morons you all.

I will enjoy every Kenyan victory/great result even more knowing how butthurt you will all be.

Have you been living in cave or something? ? Big name Kenyans who have done "something of relevance" (WRs, Olympic Gold, WC medals) have been recently testing positive for dope; Kiprop, Jebet, Jepchumba, Bett, Kalalei. These are the facts Jack - so what's racist about that?

And Bett gets me digusted! Blaming his management team for his missed tests, denies using EPO - has no idea what's going on and plays dumb! He speaks very well and sounds smart, and he's got a smartphone - so who's he trying to fool? These Kenyans whk get bagged for doping need to quit playing dumb and man up for once. They're very intelligent but yet they play this dumb game with everyone.

If this doping charge is held up, they need to give that WC bronze to it's rightful owner - Kyle Langford!

Lets Cut To The Chase With Kenyan Doping wrote:

Big name Kenyans (...) Kiprop, Jebet, Jepchumba, Bett, Kalalei. These are the facts.

Jebet is Bahraini and Kalalei is not a big name Kenyan. These are fact, not Coevett "facts".

Lets Cut To The Chase With Kenyan Doping wrote:

If this doping charge is held up, they need to give that WC bronze to it's rightful owner - Kyle Langford!

If Bett is guilty, then yes, by all means, Kyle deserves the medal.

But still, this thread is not about doping.

It's about Abraham Kiptum's world record in the Half Marathon. No matter how butthurt you all are, Kenya has another world record.

reqherujhetyjryryjry wrote:

Armstronglivs is just longhand for - yet another LRC racist idiot.

I disagree, Armstronglivs may have a very pessimistic view regarding the integrity of the sport, but he has inferred cheating by all nationalities, races and genders. He is definitely not in the 'it's only the Kenyans' camp.

It's hard to believe that a person who isn't even treating athletics as a full-time career would dope and risk essentially her entire reputation and life prospects, including the actual career she has spent the last four years studying or working 40 hour weeks to obtain.

British men are performing worse than the 80's? Hmm...I think the entire world is performing worse than the Brits of the 80's, apart from two or three Kenyans, all who have the same coach and who were training partners of Kiprop.

Male British middle-distance running is currently stronger than at any time since the 80s. In fact, if you took out Coe, Cram, and Ovett, it would be stronger than at any time since Roger Bannister, especially if you include the amazing talents emerging such as Max Burgin.

down south wrote:

When I was in school in the 1980s, I had football teammates taking steroids. Their use was common in high school then. Not sure what planet you live on if you think otherwise.

A planet called not the USA. When I was at school in the 60's & 70's the school sports were cricket and rugby. There were no performance enhancing drugs used. Though with all the smoking, beer drinking (legal drinking age 16 but a big 14 year old would have no problems) and pot, there were plenty of performance inhibiting drugs consumed.

El Keniano wrote:

ukathleticscoach wrote:

The difference between me and you is I think Mo is likely to be doping because of this. CO the 400m runner I also think doped - 3 tests come on!

Despite overwhelming evidence you still believe that Kenyan athletics is clean. At least ours have tests to dodge

Nah! We're nabbing cheats and you're not. Your "tests" are nothing but window dressing.

There's probably about 5 people on the entire planet who think that the spate of doping busts in Kenya is evidence that Kenyan runners are actually cheating less than the rest of the world, and El K is one of them.

And what real Kenyan uses language like - 'Nah! We're nabbing cheats'?

eifhrehg wrote:

Jebet is Bahraini and Kalalei is not a big name Kenyan. These are fact, not Coevett "facts".

Jebet is about as much a Bahraini as Ramzi was. ?. You're being obtuse just like some of these Kenyan doping apologists. And I listed Kalaei because he won the prestigious Athens Marathon last year - no small potatoes. In fact, it looks like his doping positive became official with a 4 yr ban:

eifhrehg wrote:

If Bett is guilty, then yes, by all means, Kyle deserves the medal.

That's a sensible statement - I'll give you credit. You hate to see a clean athlete cheated out of a high-level Olympic or WC medal.[/quote]

Coevett wrote:

There's probably about 5 people on the entire planet who think that the spate of doping busts in Kenya is evidence that Kenyan runners are actually cheating less than the rest of the world, and El K is one of them.

And what real Kenyan uses language like - 'Nah! We're nabbing cheats'?

Who is this "El K" dude? Is he a coach or an agent or something like that over there in Kenya? Or is he just some self-proclaimed Kenyan running expert and armchair analyst trying to put on a show here?

Lets Cut To The Chase With Kenyan Doping wrote:

eifhrehg wrote:

Jebet is Bahraini and Kalalei is not a big name Kenyan. These are fact, not Coevett "facts".

Jebet is about as much a Bahraini as Ramzi was. ?. You're being obtuse just like some of these Kenyan doping apologists. And I listed Kalaei because he won the prestigious Athens Marathon last year - no small potatoes. In fact, it looks like his doping positive became official with a 4 yr ban:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/45816326

eifhrehg wrote:

If Bett is guilty, then yes, by all means, Kyle deserves the medal.

That's a sensible statement - I'll give you credit. You hate to see a clean athlete cheated out of a high-level Olympic or WC medal.

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lolz

Inquiring minds want to know wrote:

Coevett wrote:

There's probably about 5 people on the entire planet who think that the spate of doping busts in Kenya is evidence that Kenyan runners are actually cheating less than the rest of the world, and El K is one of them.

And what real Kenyan uses language like - 'Nah! We're nabbing cheats'?

Who is this "El K" dude? Is he a coach or an agent or something like that over there in Kenya? Or is he just some self-proclaimed Kenyan running expert and armchair analyst trying to put on a show here?

from what we learned the other day on people insulting me....

el K is identifying as a kenyan, who is actually coevett, who is actually renato, who is actually rekrunner, who is actually jonO who is actually vent/calculo who is IN FACT the man himself JIM " 3'24 " mutha f*cking RYUN!!!

but on the for real if he is in fact kenyan he is super white washed, rich spoiled brat who was educated in and around london. he spouts off insane amounts of racist hatred at whites, and bashes nigeria and ethiopia on the regular. of the millions of white skinned people of the world he tends to hate the ones from britain the most, followed by kiwis. so he is either a white brit who is a SJW with such white guilt for the years of african colonialism, or a rich spoiled white washed kenyan who was raised in british prep schools in kenyan and then HS and university in and around london...as he has inticate knowledge of things only known to people living in london, specific bars, restaurants and tea shops where tea is $32. he has no problem harassing people, insulting, being racist and calling people out but is a quivering coward when it comes to proving he is actually kenyan or not....but since this is LR you can make your dreams about who he is as your own reality :)

Raddison wrote:

down south wrote:

When I was in school in the 1980s, I had football teammates taking steroids. Their use was common in high school then. Not sure what planet you live on if you think otherwise.

A planet called not the USA. When I was at school in the 60's & 70's the school sports were cricket and rugby. There were no performance enhancing drugs used. Though with all the smoking, beer drinking (legal drinking age 16 but a big 14 year old would have no problems) and pot, there were plenty of performance inhibiting drugs consumed.

I probably lived in the same part of the planet and went to school at much the same time. The word "dope" then was a reflection on a person's putative lack of intelligence and had no association with drugs. It took a few more decades for that to change - but change it has. The smaller countries learned from the 'big boys' example. It isn't simply money that drives it but the desire for success - and at virtually any price. Youth sport is no less susceptible. And seniors. I don't know the extent of it - no one does - we are trying to measure the invisible - but it is turning up everywhere. I very much doubt that it is the exception. There's too much at stake.

m!ndweak wrote:

Inquiring minds want to know wrote:

Who is this "El K" dude? Is he a coach or an agent or something like that over there in Kenya? Or is he just some self-proclaimed Kenyan running expert and armchair analyst trying to put on a show here?

from what we learned the other day on people insulting me....

el K is identifying as a kenyan, who is actually coevett, who is actually renato, who is actually rekrunner, who is actually jonO who is actually vent/calculo who is IN FACT the man himself JIM " 3'24 " mutha f*cking RYUN!!!

This ⬆cracks be up, it's "Fight Club" on steroids.

Subway Surfers wrote:

m!ndweak wrote:

from what we learned the other day on people insulting me....

el K is identifying as a kenyan, who is actually coevett, who is actually renato, who is actually rekrunner, who is actually jonO who is actually vent/calculo who is IN FACT the man himself JIM " 3'24 " mutha f*cking RYUN!!!

This ⬆cracks be up, it's "Fight Club" on steroids.

That's Chad for ya...he's on a roll. ?

Lets get ready to rumble wrote:

That's Chad for ya...he's on a roll. ?

Deer Coevett,

Chad fell off a boulder he was pretending to be climbing so that he could post it on Facebook.

He hit his head hard and, from being a funny anti-ventolin poster who was pretty much right about everything, he became a cVnt-face idiot who should just fvck off.

I still wish all the best for Chad. :)

Coevett wrote:

It's hard to believe that a person who isn't even treating athletics as a full-time career would dope and risk essentially her entire reputation and life prospects, including the actual career she has spent the last four years studying or working 40 hour weeks to obtain.

British men are performing worse than the 80's? Hmm...I think the entire world is performing worse than the Brits of the 80's, apart from two or three Kenyans, all who have the same coach and who were training partners of Kiprop.

Male British middle-distance running is currently stronger than at any time since the 80s. In fact, if you took out Coe, Cram, and Ovett, it would be stronger than at any time since Roger Bannister, especially if you include the amazing talents emerging such as Max Burgin.

Elliott, Robson, Williamson, Clement?