Is it fine to do K repeats in cold?

Jones 12uns wrote:

Practice tomorrow is at 5:45, and I was planning on getting 6-8K repeats in with jog recovery. It’s normally 60-75 degrees in the morning calm, but it’s expected to be 35-40 degrees with 15 mph winds and medium rain. Okay to do it or modify it? Coach mentioned doing 400s but he allows me some leeway to change the workouts if requested.

They always stop people from Cross Country skiing when it gets that cold Definitely hit the treadmill until summer comes.

Just bundle up a wee bit, you'll be fine

It’s Texas, so it’s gonna warm up. Assuming this is a troll, does anybody have any advice on adverse conditions like this?

Thanks, just saw this as I posted

If Yuki can run a sub 2:20 marathon in zero degree temps and go on to run a 2:15 marathon at this years Boston marathon in basically a hurricane environment. Doing kilometer reps in 35 degree temps should be nothing.

Jones 12uns wrote:

Practice tomorrow is at 5:45, and I was planning on getting 6-8K repeats in with jog recovery. It’s normally 60-75 degrees in the morning calm, but it’s expected to be 35-40 degrees with 15 mph winds and medium rain. Okay to do it or modify it? Coach mentioned doing 400s but he allows me some leeway to change the workouts if requested.

Your weather will be fine for doing long repeats. It's the short, high speed workouts that suck in the cold.

Jones 12uns wrote:

It’s Texas, so it’s gonna warm up. Assuming this is a troll, does anybody have any advice on adverse conditions like this?

Adverse conditions?? Please, 38 F and a little rain is a good day for running anytime from november to march in the northern US. Don't be a pu$$y.

Last winter it was no warmer than 18 F (during the day) for an entire week where I was training and I still ran outside every day.

When I was young we usually did intervals and repetitions even at -13-15 °C (5-10 °F). There was often a two week period like that at the end of december, just when we prepared for indoor events. We never had any problems doing fast and anaerobic running then.

Temperature shouldn't be a concern until you get into the single digits. 35-40 is barely long sleeve/pants weather.

Jones 12uns wrote:

Practice tomorrow is at 5:45, and I was planning on getting 6-8K repeats in with jog recovery. It’s normally 60-75 degrees in the morning calm, but it’s expected to be 35-40 degrees with 15 mph winds and medium rain. Okay to do it or modify it? Coach mentioned doing 400s but he allows me some leeway to change the workouts if requested.

Just make sure you warm up a bit more. Add a couple of 150-200m before the 1k reps, without overdoing it.

Why wouldnt you train in the cold? Sure a longer warm up is usually necessary but its a hell of a lot easier to run in the cold than on the scorching 7th layer of hell heat we've had this summer.

Jones 12uns wrote:

Practice tomorrow is at 5:45, and I was planning on getting 6-8K repeats in with jog recovery. It’s normally 60-75 degrees in the morning calm, but it’s expected to be 35-40 degrees with 15 mph winds and medium rain. Okay to do it or modify it? Coach mentioned doing 400s but he allows me some leeway to change the workouts if requested.

yes, you can do it, and the modification is to change your target paces due to the wind (and not due to the cold). If you have certain paces that you are trying to achieve in order to get a certain stimulus, you have to account for the wind and adjust your paces to maintain the same purpose of the workout.

Another thing to consider- if you felt it was very important to run fast paces, and you have the flexibility to postpone the workout for a day or 12 hours or something when there will be calm conditions, then you could do that. It doesn't mean you aren't tough, it just means that you are choosing to run in the conditions that are best for your preparation.

But in most cases, you probably should just run in the adverse conditions, and adjust your paces and expectations accordingly. There are calculators online that you can use to estimate the effect of wind.

Bonfire in the infield. Problem solved.

Very simple gauge: If the race(s) you are training for would be run in the conditions, then you should train in the conditions.

Guess why I, usually a cyclist, switched to running in winter.

Yeah just do it. I've done workouts in 15-20 degrees before while it was snowing. Just do the training, if the weather is bad it'll just be a little slower, that's all. The only time you cancel is if there's ice and it'd be dangerous to run outside, which is when you use the treadmill.

FIS (International Cross Country Skiing) doesn't allow races below -4 F, -20 C.

I think there's some evidence of repeated hard (anaerobic) training below about 10 F, especially for youth Nordic ski racing, correlating with higher asthma risk.

But running above about 10-15 F, no problem. The air seems to warm up on the way down from the mouth to the lungs.

I had what my ENT described as frost bite on my larynx running in 0 F one time. I was disposed due to a bad upper respiratory bug messing with my mucosa. Couldn't speak for a week.

Other than that, I like colder weather training and racing

This sounds a lot like what Daniels would say.