Allie Kieffer runs 1:10:58 for the win at Staten Island Half as her last workout before NYC

I'm actually glad that people like Ray Treacy aren't putting every dang run and workout up on social media. People like Molly Huddle are probably glad, as well.

Dont be a see you next tuesday wrote:

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:

Nope

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo6jdsmnepJ/?hl=en

There’s a portapotty right there, they’re usually right near aid stations.

Evidence of a definite DQ, but I'm guessing he didn't really care.

And all you wanna be officials, no that isn't legal.

dfghfghfgh wrote:

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:

Nope

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo6jdsmnepJ/?hl=en

No cups on the ground, no volunteers seen, in either direction, or heard.

Let it go guys. This was a legit aid station, the third one, at mile 3. I ran it, I know what I'm talking about. There were tables set up maybe 10-15 ft past where he handed her the bottle, on the same side of the road, just as the camera cut out at the end. Btw, what cups on the ground, there were maybe 15-20 people ahead of her... Just smh at the online Sherlocks... LOL

Re: cups on the ground

I am an old guy running slow marathons and when I dropped a cup on the ground at CIM, I was promptly scolded by a volunteer, reading my name on my bib, for not putting it in their trash can. About 17 miles in I think. I guess I will do better this year.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:

reed wrote:

not if it's at an aid station

Nope

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo6jdsmnepJ/?hl=en

How come no one's commenting on the dude in the tracksmith singlet in the video? Doesn't everyone hear love them?

No littering wrote:

Re: cups on the ground

I am an old guy running slow marathons and when I dropped a cup on the ground at CIM, I was promptly scolded by a volunteer, reading my name on my bib, for not putting it in their trash can. About 17 miles in I think. I guess I will do better this year.

Luckily this race is in Staten Island, basically a dump anyway, so no issues throwing cups on the ground

You guys are out of control.

I ran the race. Allie Kieffer passed me right before the climb at mile 8 and put some serious ground on everyone in that pace range in the last 5 miles.

I think it probably was a workout where she ran maybe the first 8-10k “relaxed” or “marathon pace” and then switched over to hammering. Her progression run is not as clear when you see the splits from the race because the second half of the course is way more challenging and the 20k split marker was about 20 seconds late on the course.

If Kellyn Taylor can run 2:24 at Grandma’s, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Allie run a similar time on a fast course. But for NYC- I think anything 2:27 or better would be a great result.

slo-twitch wrote:

You guys are out of control.

I ran the race. Allie Kieffer passed me right before the climb at mile 8 and put some serious ground on everyone in that pace range in the last 5 miles.

I think it probably was a workout where she ran maybe the first 8-10k “relaxed” or “marathon pace” and then switched over to hammering. Her progression run is not as clear when you see the splits from the race because the second half of the course is way more challenging and the 20k split marker was about 20 seconds late on the course.

If Kellyn Taylor can run 2:24 at Grandma’s, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Allie run a similar time on a fast course. But for NYC- I think anything 2:27 or better would be a great result.

You're out of control. It was run like a race, not a workout. She's not a 1:09 half marathoner.

You think 2:27? You repeated about the same times that half a dozen other posters already made. Late to the party, eh?

No, it wasn't a workout, it was a race! I was there as well, she was working hard the whole way and Brad made sure to say "workout", for all of the suckers like you with no brain.

Can I ask how you know that as a fact she ran hard the whole way? And quite the conspiracy for Brad to think and plan the video enough to say it's a "workout" for the 3 people who may watch it and discuss it on LR.

I don’t know if Brad stole your puppy or what, and I didn’t read the entire thread before posting 2:27 as a good result for her at NYC.

My point is that she seriously negative split on a course that makes it very challenging to do so itself to that pacing. My guess is that her last 10k split is as fast or faster as most of the 1:08 guys.

So it seems unlikely to me that she was racing the whole way. I think she would have paced it more evenly. The “workout” shouting conspiracy seems more than a little less likely.

Good luck getting your puppy back!

Cool, so you're one of the people in video running next to her!! Which one are you?

Repeat much???? wrote:

I was there as well, she was working hard the whole way and Brad made sure to say "workout", for all of the suckers like you with no brain.

Looking at the results, only one person finished with her time (could have seen her "working hard the whole way"), so you're Jordan ODonoghue?

adsf wrote:

Cool, so you're one of the people in video running next to her!! Which one are you?

Repeat much???? wrote:

I was there as well, she was working hard the whole way and Brad made sure to say "workout", for all of the suckers like you with no brain.

slo-twitch wrote:

My point is that she seriously negative split on a course that makes it very challenging to do so itself to that pacing. My guess is that her last 10k split is as fast or faster as most of the 1:08 guys.

You are close. Her split from 10K to the finish (37 min) is slightly slower than that of the 1:08 guys, but as fast or faster than that of most 1:09 guys.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:

reed wrote:

not if it's at an aid station

Nope

Do you not see the portajohns?

Mid D Guy wrote:

slo-twitch wrote:

My point is that she seriously negative split on a course that makes it very challenging to do so itself to that pacing. My guess is that her last 10k split is as fast or faster as most of the 1:08 guys.

You are close. Her split from 10K to the finish (37 min) is slightly slower than that of the 1:08 guys, but as fast or faster than that of most 1:09 guys.

no it wasn't. total bull.

It's great clickbait! See how long this thread has been alive at the top of LetsRun? Her story's totally cool and people (gals especially - of which I am one) are into it. I'm checking out his insta now for more Allie and normally, I wouldn't bother.

If she ran a 1:12-1:13 and didn't win, everybody would be saying that she has no shot at NYC because "how do you win NYC if you can't win the Staten Island half?" But now that she's run a strong half and won 3 weeks out, you're saying she ran too fast? Should she have run just exactly the way you wanted her to? Are you an Olympic caliber coach like Brad Hudson? Who knows how she'll do since she's still very young and new to the scene, but I think her hard training has set her up well to put her in the mix to win at NYC. Good luck Allie!

Parker Stinson didn't flop at Chicago. He ran a smart, PR race by 4 minutes on a rainy day. I don't care that his last PR was his first marathon, a PR is a PR. His 35K tempo didn't hurt his chances of running fast at Chicago, it gave him the confidence to run fast and PR in Chicago, which he did.

Based on a quick review of his Instagram, I’d bet they are in some form of relationship (romantic, highly emotional, or otherwise). There is codependence and affection that goes well beyond typical coach athlete relationship, in both directions.