Allie Kieffer runs 1:10:58 for the win at Staten Island Half as her last workout before NYC

2:25 +/- a minute

milka workout??? wrote:

Yep, she's been working hard, but that was NOT a workout, it was a hard effort.

She could have run 1:09, but backed off because it was just a WORKOUT. I wish her well and hope she has a great race in 20 days, but that wasn't a WORKOUT.

huh?

She is among the most exciting American women marathoners right now. She delivers time after time, she seems to be a genuine and authentic human being (at least on her social media platforms). I don't get a whiff of arrogance from her - just someone who works hard, appreciates her opportunities, and simply following their dream. This is what makes our sport so awesome!!

I would say she's an underdog, but she really isn't - she's been putting out solid results for over a year now. I guess she's an underdog in terms of resources as she doesn't seem to have as much financial backing as some others.

Coach Hudson posted that this was her last hard workout before NYC, supposedly run at marathon past. How fast will she run at NYC in 3 weeks?[/quote]

2:26:35

whatwhatwhat? wrote:

milka workout??? wrote:

Yep, she's been working hard, but that was NOT a workout, it was a hard effort.

She could have run 1:09, but backed off because it was just a WORKOUT. I wish her well and hope she has a great race in 20 days, but that wasn't a WORKOUT.

huh?

it wasn't a workout. she was racing it, hard. if she had tried to run faster, she couldn't have.

2:27:47.61

knower of meanings wrote:

whatwhatwhat? wrote:

huh?

it wasn't a workout. she was racing it, hard. if she had tried to run faster, she couldn't have.

So you're saying that a hard race has no training benefit at all?

illegal aid wrote:

Brad also posted an IG video of him handing her fluids along the course. Isn't that a USATF violation and therefore a DQ?

yes but hardly anyone gets dqed for it

Whaaaa wrote:

2:27:47.61

Haha! Looks like I was outdone on specificity

Top American at NYC wrote:

She is my pick for top American at NYC.

Huddle will be the only American to go with the Keitany Train. The second group will be the Other Americans. Huddle will come back hard and Allie will be the best out of the 2nd group.

re: "Huddle will be the only American to go with the Keitany Train."

I doubt it, Huddle tends to race conservatively when she is up against T-1 athletes.

This should be called "the ben true effect" or something similar.

Leave it to the Letsrun crowd to pick some newish-on-the-scene or inconsistent runner who runs a 1:11 to be top American at a major marathon.

It'd be great and everything guys, but be sensible. She's not top caliber as much as you want her to be.

I happen to know that he used frequent flier miles for the flight, and stayed at his parents' house.

typical Letsrun speculation wrote:

This should be called "the ben true effect" or something similar.

Leave it to the Letsrun crowd to pick some newish-on-the-scene or inconsistent runner who runs a 1:11 to be top American at a major marathon.

It'd be great and everything guys, but be sensible. She's not top caliber as much as you want her to be.

Nice try. Her results would say otherwise:

Indoor Track Marathon 2016 - 1st in 2:44 (world record at the time)

Outdoor 10K Championships - Not sure about place but ran 32:09

New York Marathon 2017 - 5th (2nd American) in 2:29

Doha 1/2 Marathon 2018 - 1st in 1:10:40

10K National Road Championship 2018 - 4th in 32:52

20K National Road Championship 2018 - 2nd in 1:09:20

Staten Island half Marathon 2018 - 1st in 1:10

Anything under 225 is amazzzzzing. Go Allie!!

Prolly on a molly wrote:

Anything under 225 is amazzzzzing. Go Allie!!

In the last 10 years (all the further I went back), only one US woman has run under 2:28 in New York, and that was Shalane last year when she just barely went under 2:27.

In fact it's rather rare to even have an American woman break 2:30.

So given that, I'd say Allie would do well to get under 2:29 this time. It's a tough course to run.

Oh Please wrote:

Prolly on a molly wrote:

Anything under 225 is amazzzzzing. Go Allie!!

In the last 10 years (all the further I went back), only one US woman has run under 2:28 in New York, and that was Shalane last year when she just barely went under 2:27.

In fact it's rather rare to even have an American woman break 2:30.

So given that, I'd say Allie would do well to get under 2:29 this time. It's a tough course to run.

Agree with this. If the weather is fair, I'd give her a 2:28:11 at best. Nothing personal, she's just a ways to go and I hope she gets there.

physics defiant wrote:

knower of meanings wrote:

it wasn't a workout. she was racing it, hard. if she had tried to run faster, she couldn't have.

So you're saying that a hard race has no training benefit at all?

No wise guy, a hard race is just that, a hard race.

Nothing wrong with that at all, but when people call is a "workout", they tend to imply she wasn't trying very had, which is bullish*t.

I know she reads these boards, 100%. Athletes can't resist when their name is in a thread title.

So it's nothing personal Allie. That was a very hard effort, not a a workout, aka not trying all that hard as you were surely pushing out there.

Absolutely. I'm giving her 2:28:43. She's not running 5:30 pace, 2:24+ for the New York City Marathon. If she does, I'll be the first one admitting that she fooled me big time and send her a token gift for effort.

She's the anti-Gwen J.