RUPP GOES HOME DEVASTATED!!!!!

Youth.in.Revolt wrote:

If I were Galen, which I'm not, I'd go to London and shoot for a low 2:05 -- maybe even 2:04:57.

I feel like he consolidated his gains today, showing he can run low 2:06 consistently, and the next big step will be a dramatic time drop

∆∆∆ This. What should GR do now?

1. He now knows he will never be a top top marathoner. If he ever wins another major games medal it will be in a weak field (like Rio). Why bother?

2. Sure, he could earn $ by winning in the US, say NY or Boston. That's fine, and a likely course of action, but it's hardly pushing forward. He is still at his peak and might be able to add more to his legacy than just 2nd tier victories.

No, if I was GR I would now go for a smokin time in Berlin or something. He may or may not have a 2:04, but at least give it your best shot.

About the only other course is XC glory, and I have no idea how good he is at XC.

John Utah wrote:

Piggy piggy wrote:

Problem with that is Rupp will always be considered by the majority of Americans as an American. Farah will always be considered unwanted Somalian trash for the majority of Europeans. Wouldnt matter if he was born there or not.

99.99% of Americans would consider rup, born in Portland to AMERICAN parents, to be AMERICAN. There are always flat earth types, but not many.

99.99% of Americans have no clue who Galen Rupp is.

RUPP-Tured prostate wrote:

So. Mr Rupp is handed a severe lesson is marathon racing by Sir Mohammed Farah. Mohammed was perfect, he dictated the pace and race and Galen failed. He’s rightly dejected and upset. Mohammed is awesome. God Save the Queen.

Did you watch the race? When did Farah dictate the pace? He did his usual thing - stayed behind everybody until he made his move. Either you didn't watch the race or you're just spewing hot air.

Rupp ran a solid race and came back to beat Geoffrey Kirui. I don't see Farah "handing a severe lesson in marathon racing" to Rupp; Farah didn't really make any moves until his final push. Where's the lesson in that? That's what Farah's been doing for years.

What the heck wrote:

Runnergrl wrote:

Mo has only run 3 marathons. Too early to tell. Eventually every marathoner has an off day. And if your off day is 2:06 well your doing ok.

Im not sure why we are are down on Galens performance.

His time today is the 3rd fastest ever by an American. Only Khalid and Ryan have run faster, note Khalid has two 2:05's one being a world record to put Galen's performance into perspective. Khalid and Ryan do not have an Olympic medal in the marathon event.

Today's run clearly makes him the greatest American marathoner of all time.

Marathon field in Olympics is by default a weak field inclusive of inferior athletes. Rio even more so since Kenya pooped itself again in selection process and had it not shat the process, could be that Rupp would've been 5th place.

Hall was better, period.

Galen has had more $$$, training, resources and AlSal coaching and by that measure, Hall is WAY more impressive. His 1/2 and full times are superior and he did so with a fraction of the $$$ poured into Galen's career.

If Hall had the same resources that Rupp has had, Then we'd be talking about 2:02xx for US record.

ya, its all about money and racism in the marathon.

that's why white millionaires dominate and poor africans have no ch

and the that's why racist japs dominate, too much yen.

those are the facts.

sorry , that's why poor africans stand no chance, they can't even afford an altitude tent, like rupp

and the money is why so many americans break 210 every year,

no cash, forget it.

Runnergrl wrote:

Yep. The race played well for Mo. He ran a great race.

I thought the pacing in this marathon was a bit inconsistent.

2:06 is a great race. But I think this would be a good time to take a break from training for the marathon. If he wants to be a factor in 2020 this is the time. You can only go to the well so many times. Although would like to see Mo and Galen in Boston. In a championship race with hills.

Can people please stop saying this stupid sh!t? PLEASE?

It is just so monumentally idiotic it is painful to witness.

Thanks.

runnerdave wrote:

RUPP-Tured prostate wrote:

So. Mr Rupp is handed a severe lesson is marathon racing by Sir Mohammed Farah. Mohammed was perfect, he dictated the pace and race and Galen failed. He’s rightly dejected and upset. Mohammed is awesome. God Save the Queen.

Did you watch the race? When did Farah dictate the pace? He did his usual thing - stayed behind everybody until he made his move. Either you didn't watch the race or you're just spewing hot air.

Rupp ran a solid race and came back to beat Geoffrey Kirui. I don't see Farah "handing a severe lesson in marathon racing" to Rupp; Farah didn't really make any moves until his final push. Where's the lesson in that? That's what Farah's been doing for years.

He owned him, pure and simple. Get over it already love.

You mad because only one has an olympic marathon medal?

An Olympic marathon medal is a crowning achievement for everybody except for Galen, for whom it is rather a sign that the Olympic marathon is a watered-down competition and nothing to write home about. Same applies to winning either a marathon major or a second-tier European marathon, where a 3-minute personal best and very respectable time is performed.

Agree expectations are very high for him unfortunately. But he also has high expectations.

If he never gets a gold or marathon AR would we look at his career and say he failed? Absolutely no. Did we do that with Meb orHall? No. But we are so used to the guy stepping up to plate and delivering. Our expectations are that he will be the greatest.

Coming in 4 th with issue with injury, not a good 1/2 to boost confidence, with a very stacked marathon field and delivering a solid 2:06 should be impressive.

I think we need to be realistic and understand that not every race will be a home run.

Correction 5 th not 4 th

Rupp is done.

Time to move up to the ultramarathon distance.

;)

Rupp, with every advantage possible today, is just over two minutes faster than this dude ran, over hills, at NYC. Rupp run NYC yet?

Meanwhile, the whole world is running 7 minutes faster than this racewalking dude ran.

https://youtu.be/h3qBsciCoZM

FFF wrote:

Rupp, with every advantage possible today, is just over two minutes faster than this dude ran, over hills, at NYC. Rupp run NYC yet?

Not to stir the pot, but that dude's not a 'Murican, either.

FFF wrote:

Rupp, with every advantage possible today, is just over two minutes faster than this dude ran, over hills, at NYC. Rupp run NYC yet?

Meanwhile, the whole world is running 7 minutes faster than this racewalking dude ran.

Now this is the kind of absurd statement that makes it hard to take this board seriously at times. Leaving aside that Salazar's 2:08:13 at NYC in 1981 was found to have been run on a short course, the proposition that, "the whole world is running 7 minutes faster" doesn't pass even the most basic smell test.

First off, Kipchoge's world record is 2:01:39 which is only 6:34 faster than 2:08:13. So, not even a single person has run "7 minutes faster" than Salazar. Even if we don't take your 7 minutes statement so literally, the fact of the matter is that only one individual has ever run under 2:02, and that individual has only done so once (on a record eligible course). That individual also happens to be the greatest marathoner who ever lived, so definitely not, "the whole world" by any stretch.

Taking it further, only one individual has ever run in the 2:02s (and again only once). Only seven individuals have ever run in the 2:03s. When you consider that Galen has beaten several of those eight individuals (Kimetto + the seven in the 2:03's) in head-to-head racing, its hard to argue that even those eight guys truly on another level. I'll gladly concede that Kipchoge is in fact on a totally different level. The most reasonable statement one could make about the current state of world class marathon running, and Rupp's place in it, would be the following:

Winning a first tier international marathon requires the ability to run 2:05:XX or faster under ideal conditions. Galen Rupp may not be at quite at that level yet, and may never be. However, he has shown an ability to consistently perform at just below that level when it counts, which makes him a threat to place in those same races when those faster than him falter.

Runnergrl wrote:

Mo has only run 3 marathons. Too early to tell. Eventually every marathoner has an off day. And if your off day is 2:06 well your doing ok.

How is it that you think that this was an "off day" for Rupp? Perhaps it was quite the opposite. Perhaps it was a career day.

I have no way of knowing. Do you?

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great post Old Dude