When did men start hugging men?

Democrats lose again!!! Affirmative action hussein never achieved these high approvals.

Men (and women) casually embracing and kissing strangers or casual acquaintances is not normal. Do adult dogs continue to sleep together in a pile? No.

Flagpole wrote:

Gravy wrote:

January 20, 1993. Shocked that you don't know this.

Ah...well done.

flagpole is liberal because he likes to get free stuff and not work for it....truth!

Yes. Overly affectionate Italian-American mobsters go back to the Godfather films.

Black gangsters in popular entertainment have the half hug + punch on the back or chest.

Joe Schmoe wrote:

John Utah wrote:

That's probably because you are a man

This makes no sense. It isn't the norm for men to find physical contact off-putting; quite a lot of countries are huggers or cheek-kissers.

American men are so scared of everything it's hilarious.

That might tell you something about male humans in those other countries. Like I said, men shake hands with each other.

A REAL Man wrote:

John Utah wrote:

Men shake hands with each other.

REAL men don't shake hands. They lock eyes, nod, then turn and walk off silently in opposite directions.

That's next level. Not every man is next level.

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Kinda sad that Flagpole doesn't have anyone in his life that is a really good friend. When its a really good friend or your father or grandfather it would feel really weird to simply give a handshake. Handshakes are cool and they're perfect for most people you run into but if your so standoffish that you can't give someone a hug then I feel sorry for you.

Precious Roy's post was hilarious and also sad at the same time.

It started with Trump hugging Putin, but Putin didn't like it so Trump started hugging another dictator Kim Jong-Un. Now Trump and Kim are doing a lot more than just hugging, I believe Trumps said he and Kim are in love.

Good times are killing me wrote:

Kinda sad that Flagpole doesn't have anyone in his life that is a really good friend. When its a really good friend or your father or grandfather it would feel really weird to simply give a handshake. Handshakes are cool and they're perfect for most people you run into but if your so standoffish that you can't give someone a hug then I feel sorry for you.

Agree. Stop it with the cold hearted prick routine.

John Utah wrote:

Do you know what personal space is? wrote:

I'm not a puppy anymore and find "casual" intimate contact with strangers to be off putting.

That's probably because you are a man

sexism much?

Wtfbbq wrote:

Who's insecure? wrote:

We usually do four kisses around here but numbers vary from 2 to 4.

Also, turkish male friends often walk arms in arms in the street.

Yeah, when I’ve visited the Middle East and India in the pas, I was always surprised how affectionate straight men are with each other in their friendships. Ironically (am I using that word right here?) they are the extreme opposite in their straight relationships, there is barely any, if any, physical contact.

Well that's noticeable and cultural, not ironical. Male and female usually avoid physical contact in public.

But that clearly not a rule in Turkey and this country has been way more socially liberal than USA : transexual singer Bülent Ersoy since the 80's, and also a TV anchor since the 90's IIRC. Things change with Erdogan, but he HAS to deal with them.

And Turkey is not the Middle East, nor India. All different cases, but yes the religious pressure cannot be overlooked...as in USA. It seems that only real believers and their potus mate are allowed to override common decency , these days. Irony?

Yet, USA has its first atheist president (maybe Kennedy was, I don't know) and for some reason (not much conservatives amongst the 20-25%) he's quiet about that.

John Utah wrote:

Joe Schmoe wrote:

This makes no sense. It isn't the norm for men to find physical contact off-putting; quite a lot of countries are huggers or cheek-kissers.

American men are so scared of everything it's hilarious.

That might tell you something about male humans in those other countries. Like I said, men shake hands with each other.

Democrats are fairies.

Democrats are fairies wrote:

Democrats are fairies.

Tell me, buddy : you seem to be highly knowledgeable.

Have you ever left your home town and travelled abroad?

When? Ancient Greece, baby.

Watch and learn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKLVmBOOqVU

Flagpole wrote:

txRUNNERgirl wrote:

You managed to fit sexism and racism into one post.

It is neither of those things.

How is asking when men started to hug each other sexist? It isn't. It is a thing that has become a norm in our society that was not one back in the 70s. Perhaps not as noticeable to you since you are not old enough.

And racist? You have got to be kidding. I wasn't saying that I thought that about black dudes. I was giving an answer as an example that perhaps someone was going to say. I might disagree with that if someone said it even.

You don't know anyone more liberal than me. No sexism here or racism ever.

The "failure" of other men to conform to your sexual stereotypes, or to be generous, stereotypes established during previous generations, IS SEXISM.

The more you know: