Galen Rupp tells RW that he does 20+ mile long runs on treadmills or on a 300m grass loop

Bad Wigins wrote:

Who is going to copy a Rupp workout, other than someone with no chance of using it to beat him (i.e. an American or European)? NOBODY of his caliber, let alone better, is going to steal his stupid training methods.

NOP needs to put down what it's smoking and admit it has failed - more than a decade in, none of its runners have achieved its goal. The only one that beat the east Africans was the east African. Its methods are not so great. Coaches with far less experience, money and lab tech have faster marathoners than NOP ever will. Only a fool would copy them or their silly "gray area doping" methods. Playing jokes on themselves with nonsense like L-carnitine injections, saline bags, etc. Running on grass makes you slower.

I mean, seriously, why would anyone "gray area dope" when straight up DOPING works so much better? Sheesh.

pnw_runner wrote:

Strangely, I found it a lot easier mentally to do workouts on the treadmill than it was doing just easy running. Maybe the higher effort level of a workout distracts the mind from the boredom of being on the treadmill?

This has always been my experience. If you're in enough pain you can't be bored. I even find workouts easier on the treadmill than on the track (even after accounting for the fact the the treadmill literally requires less effort at the same speed) because I don't have to think at all about pace. Done plenty of 1-2 hour tempos on the treadmill.

People on LRC are idiots. Rupp gets bashed for not sharing stuff on social media. Other well known runners are called "shameless self promoters" when they do.

I did a 18 and 20 mile long run on the treadmill this training cycle and I plan to do a sub-3 treadmill marathon one of these days. I also want to do a sub-3 marathon on the track someday(I have done a half marathon on the track at near-half marathon pace/6:05 and plenty of 10 mile track tempos at goal HMP or a bit faster). If it is good enough for Rupp, it is good enough for me to run on a track or treadmill.

Fjxjvmcjxhj wrote:

J Gault stealing content yet again. Guess he’s not quite the journalist he thinks he is. He can’t get the big names.

He’s a plagiarist.

You are a idiot. It would be plagiarism if he published this as his own. But he didn't, he linked us to a article for us to discuss.

Jonathan Gault wrote:

Galen Rupp did an interview with Sarah Lorge Butler of Runner's World before Chicago. She got a few interesting nuggets out of him, including:

-He sometimes does long runs on a treadmill or on a 300m loop around a grass field.

Ah but has he ever been lapped on one of these runs but come back to the front by the end?

Bad Wigins wrote:

NOP needs to put down what it's smoking and admit it has failed - more than a decade in, none of its runners have achieved its goal. The only one that beat the east Africans was the east African. Its methods are not so great.

Rupp beat quite a few Africans in London, Rio, Boston, Chicago.

Center has an OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Who is going to copy a Rupp workout, other than someone with no chance of using it to beat him (i.e. an American or European)? NOBODY of his caliber, let alone better, is going to steal his stupid training methods.

NOP needs to put down what it's smoking and admit it has failed - more than a decade in, none of its runners have achieved its goal. The only one that beat the east Africans was the east African. Its methods are not so great. Coaches with far less experience, money and lab tech have faster marathoners than NOP ever will. Only a fool would copy them or their silly "gray area doping" methods. Playing jokes on themselves with nonsense like L-carnitine injections, saline bags, etc. Running on grass makes you slower.

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He's more secretive about his training than the Moroccans.

Ben L Wrong wrote:

He's more secretive about his training than the Moroccans.

It's very interesting how he won't say how long his longest long run was.

Sand Dunes wrote:

Ben L Wrong wrote:

He's more secretive about his training than the Moroccans.

It's very interesting how he won't say how long his longest long run was.

How long?

distant curious wrote:

Sand Dunes wrote:

It's very interesting how he won't say how long his longest long run was.

How long?

In his interviews he says longer than the marathon distances, but won't give us a exact number.

Sand Dunes wrote:

distant curious wrote:

How long?

In his interviews he says longer than the marathon distances, but won't give us a exact number.

Ive heard their group say 27 miles before, but i haven't seen it mentioned this cycle

Jimmy21 wrote:

Sand Dunes wrote:

In his interviews he says longer than the marathon distances, but won't give us a exact number.

Ive heard their group say 27 miles before, but i haven't seen it mentioned this cycle

Yeah, but in recent interviews he has said way beyond 26.2 miles. Does that mean 36 miles? 40, 50 miles?

Ezekiel bread wrote:

Jimmy21 wrote:

Ive heard their group say 27 miles before, but i haven't seen it mentioned this cycle

Yeah, but in recent interviews he has said way beyond 26.2 miles. Does that mean 36 miles? 40, 50 miles?

Somewhere between 28-30 if I had to guess. I agree that way beyond would be 30+ but I’m doubting it’s that long.

Make sure Galen's water/electrolyte person wraps

the lids of his bottles in case. Better yet, put bright

yellow/green reflective tape, so he doesn't miss

his bottles.

Go Galen, we love you very much.

Bring that American to a real American's heart.

Bump

I'm doing most of my training on a one mile grass loop at a park that's a 1/4 mile from my house. The old bones just don't like the shock of the pavement any more and I don't like to have to get in a car and drive to trails for a workout.

I can just about handle the one mile loop, under my tedium threshold, for 10-12 laps. 300 meter loop for 20 miles, yeesh.

Also, all that turning has its own injury risk because the outer leg has to travel further. Good way to strain a hamstring or a groin, particularly when the muscle dehydrates from the long distance.

I ran a 27 mile run last week on the treadmill and a 20 mile run today. Don't see what the big deal is especially as Rupp is much faster than I am.

I have done a marathon on an indoor track. Much prefer the treadmill!!