Ben Johnson's lab results released

Ben has a speech impediment so they took him for an easy target.

so sad.

just look how long it took before we saw another 9.79

BEN IS THE GOAT

crumpet wrote:

so they named the wrong generic steroid? So what, a steroid is still a steroid.

This is what you took the time to write? You are this stupid? You really missed the whole point of the article? Idiot.

will bite little fella, no, i've tested steroids, worked in a lab that applied to wada, that would be the tip of the iceberg.

that will be the end of that.

The real loser was Landeghem

So Linford Christie should have also been banned and Lewis should have been serving a ban.

Black On Blonde wrote:

I love that as time goes on Ben's legacy is being restored. That Olympic final was probably the greatest hyped up track event in history and it delivered 100%.

Ben was obviously scapegoated afterwards but, as time goes on and ALL these guys have been revealed as "cheats", the fact that Ben was the true great of that time - drugs or no drugs - seems pretty clear.

Garbage.

Two wrongs don't make a right. If he was a cheat it's irrelevant what anyone else was doing.

Second it's blatenty obvious just from his appearance change that he was using more or responded more that the other runners at the time.

The failed test for Lewis was for stimulants far less effective than steroids.

He probably want using steroids and HGH but at least making some effort to pass the test. Johnson and especially Francis thought they could take anything and not get caught.

From memory Johnson was injured leading up to the Olympics and probably stayed on the dope later than he normally would.

Some scribbled notes don't prove anything 30 years. Francis and Johnson both pathological layers do wouldn't trust anything they said.

Either way he was doping and he went from being a 10.2 sprinter to 9.79 due to steroids.

If you took drugs out of the equation I don't think Johnson would even medal.

At the time I actually loved Johnson for beating overconfident Lewis. That bwastard ruined athletics for me and my belief has never been the same since.

I didn't steal that car I stole a different one! What difference does it make.

longjack wrote:

everybody in ben's race was on PEDs and everyone knew it, in the race the coaches and anyone in the circle.

I know this a a different argument but I believe the possible clean WR holder, Calvin Smith, was not on PED's in '88.

The whites of Ben Johnson's eyes were far from white, which outside of his incredible start stood out as exceptionally interesting.

THAT is interesting...

I'm actually in the process of writing something on Flo-Jo... any way to direct message me to have a chat about this?

Opinionated guy wrote:

longjack wrote:

everybody in ben's race was on PEDs and everyone knew it, in the race the coaches and anyone in the circle.

I know this a a different argument but I believe the possible clean WR holder, Calvin Smith, was not on PED's in '88.

The whites of Ben Johnson's eyes were far from white, which outside of his incredible start stood out as exceptionally interesting.

I also think Smith could have been clean. He reminds me of British sprinter Jason Gardner who had a similar less muscular physique and was just naturally fast.

Not sure what the issue is here. From the article:

While the presence of stanozolol is indisputable (experts retained by Dubin verified those chemical findings), inconsistencies throughout the long-forgotten documents raise procedural questions about the lab’s handling of the sprinter’s sample.

Robson Da Silva from Brazil also could have been clean. He was more competitive at 200m.

Luv2Run wrote:

Yes, 30 years ago the news that shocked the track world.

Finally the lab report is released.

https://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/2018/09/28/ben-johnsons-1988-olympic-drug-test-contains-altered-lab-codes-and-hand-scrawled-revisions-and-almost-no-one-has-seen-it-until-now.html

There have been lots of allegations surrounding this.

I find it kind of funny that Johnson admitted to using steroids, just not those steroids and that the ones he took were not the ones detected.

His rationale for providing them drugs, he said, was his belief that they would use drugs with or without him. With him, he said, he could be sure they would be monitored properly, so that proper medical tests would preclude the risk of deleterious side effects.

Astaphan disputed, however, earlier testimony from Francis and others that the athletes were not always aware of the drugs they were given. In responding to questions about a substance he had identified to the athletes as Estragol, Astaphan said that at least Francis, Johnson and Issajenko had been told that Estragol - a made-up name - was really a Japanese brand of the anabolic steroid furazabol called Miotolin. Vitamins-for-Drug Trade

Astaphan said that in 1985 he received a supply of 48 bottles of Miotolin from an East German athlete in exchange for 144 bottles of a vitamin mixture. But, he said, the East German, whom he did not identify, swore him to secrecy in fear of ''the damn Americans'' finding out about the drug.

He further testified that he told Francis, Johnson and Issajenko the reason for the subterfuge. But in their testimony, Francis and Issajenko said they had known the substance only as Estragol. Johnson is expected to testify next month.

''They always knew what they were getting,'' Astaphan said.

Astaphan testified on another matter that was disputed. He contended that Jack Scott, a California-based physical therapist, approached him last August in Ottawa and two weeks later in Zurich about working with Carl Lewis and other members of the Santa Monica (Calif.) Track Club.

''He said they had expressed an interest in working with me,'' Astaphan said, referring to Scott and the Santa Monica athletes. ''I ignored him.'' In telephone interviews, Scott and Lewis's manager, Joe Douglas, emphatically denied Astaphan's assertion.