FIVE More Kenyan Runners Suspended

So there's evidence of systematic doping in Kenya? I don't why then Canova says systematic doping doesn't exist in Kenya (I believe that's what his stance is?).

On the Rotich-Rio debacle, I've ask him about that before (posting a link on it) and all I got was a stern lecture that it was a benevolent incident and didn't happen that way, as well as belittled for thinking that his coach would ever try to a pull fast-one on anti-doping.

I don't know what to believe on that incident. Maybe you can engage in some debate on that with him. He doesn't seem to get overbearing & callous with you as much as he does with me & others. Maybe you're not intimidated by him and he respects that? ?

We've got a go-to guy wrote:

Chad who? - Just askin'. wrote:

Sorry I asked.

Oh yeah, still don't know who Chad is and whether he's the new guru and if I should be hanging off every word he posts, lets face it, there are a lot of them (witness the last few posts).

Well...have you gone back and read his posts? ? His LRC user name is "m!ndweak" and on a couple of posts on the "Alex Hutchinson calls out Canova" thread, he's given his college and academic credentials, and his times when he ran D-2. He tells like it is. And you don't have to hang off every word he posts, but at least you got someone else to listen to other than those ad nauseam trolling posts by rekrunner. ?

FMD, you're a hard man, there's 44 friggin pages to wade through!!!

Coevett, why do you continue to modify the reality for supporting your opinions ?

How many times, for example, somebody (not only myself, but also the official report of IAAF) explained that John Anzrah WAS NOT the coach of Ferguson Rotich, that he NEVER replaced Ferguson in giving his urine in Rio to the antidoping, that he was in the village with the accreditation of Ferguson (who was not an athlete coached by Anzrah) because, due to the corruption of the KNOC, some useless official used the possibility of accreditation for himself, instead that for the coaches (the Kenyan coah of Julius Yego, who at the moment was the World Champion of Javelin, had a ticket for arriving Rio the day before the qualification, with the return the same day of the final...) ? So, in this case, NOTHING TO DO WITH DOPING.

And when you speak about Nicholas Bett, clearly you show NO knowledge about tha kenyan athletes. Nicholas Bett was the World Champion of 400 hs in 2015, and was not a lucky person, because lost one son before Olympics, and two months ago died for a car accident in Kenya.

You mix doping and corruption, putting everything in the same pot, and this is not correct, because the two situations only sometimes are linked.

Nobody denies there is a serious problem of doping in Kenya, PROBLEM THAT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE 2010. This not because in 2010 the antidoping didn't work, but because the general behavior of the athletes was really different, and only who lived in Kenya and worked with the athletes in that period can know, of sure not somebody who never was in Africa and thinks every article in western newspapers are part of the Bible.

But every kind of doping is strictly INDIVIDUAL, and in the most part of cases depends on the total IGNORANCE of the effect, not only by the athletes, but frequently by doctors and pharmacists in the Kenyan villages.

It's not something I say, but it's something the final WADA report explains. But of course, because this doesn't support your crusade, you don't consider that report like something REAL : the reality is only what there is in your mind.

Mindweak, there is only a very weak point in all what you say, that can be shared for 80% : YOU DON'T BELIEVE POSSIBLE TO RUN FAST IN CLEAN WAY (and this is your THOUGHT only), while I KNOW that is possible, because the athletes that I posted time ago are/were the example of this.

You can ask "Who can give us the certainty they were clean ?", but in your thesis you don't have any doubt, because you have the certainty THEY ARE ALL DOPED.

Of course I can't accept something like this. I worked with many of those athletes, I see how fast the talented can grow and how less talented don't improve, I see who has strong discipline and who doesn't have, who lives in a training camp for 30 days every month and who always move (in Kenyan we say "Combo-combo"), who has full motivation and who doesn't have, who wants to learn and who is not interested, who is serious in his choices and who is superficial, who has continuity in training and who has a lot of talent but frequently disappears, who is able to be focussed on training ALWAYS, and who, after winning some small money, quit training living in a way well superior of his possibilities, wasting in short time all what he earned.

It seems you think that, in Kenya, there is a TOTAL HOMOLOGATION of people : everybody the same like brain, character, education, motivation, personal stimuli, intelligence, behavior.

I can give you an information now : also their colour is not the same.... and if the body of the car is not the same, you can imagine if their engine is the same, of what the car is able to do...

Try to look at African people as PERSONS, not part of a category that, really, doesn't exist !

As many have said - Coevett is a liar and he knows nothing about professional athletics.

Well said, Renato. This goes for m!ndweak Chad, Coevett, Subway Moron and others.

^Someone’s hijacked Trollism’s handle. Alert the Brojos.

El Keniano wrote:

^Someone’s hijacked Trollism’s handle. Alert the Brojos.

Four reasons why I am stupid:

1 - I reported that guy's post when he is actually supporting the same causes I do. While trollism is another "all Kenyans are dopers" guy.

2 - There's nothing in the LRC rules against having a capital letter in the middle of someone's handle. Why does the handle TROILISM seem to annoy me so much?

3 - I forgot that by having an L in my handle someone might, by total chance, pick a similar handle, but with a capital i in it.

4 - I just am.

^ Well, that’s my handle hijacked as well. Time to consider a new one. And no, I did not actually report the previous post. I’ve never reported anyone.