William Claye positive test for Clenbuterol

casual obsever wrote:

We have a list, right?

Allowed are

- cocaine (found in hookers)

Ha! Funniest thing I have seen on this site in weeks (probably months).

A slight alteration.

Bad Wigins wrote:

tashan s wrote:

"When asked to recall what meals included meat while on his trip to Mexico, Claye says that he ate a breakfast burrito that included steak, eggs and potatoes, a steak dinner with a side of potatoes and then a hamburger from the Tijuana airport. "

never trust the burgers in the tijuana airport

wait a minute... aren't there other elite athletes planting potatoes lately? Maybe it wasn't the meat at all.

"Potatoes" are the future of the sport.

casual obsever wrote:

We have a list, right?

Allowed are

- cocaine (found in hookers)

You are quite astute in your observation...

Clen does have anabolic effects as well, they don't last forever but you can get a bit of lean mass out of it for 2-3 weeks and cut some fat in the process, that isn't worthless at all even at this time of the season.

But you don't have to be Claye to need Clen, if you're a skinny fat distance runner, a bit of clen doesn't look to bad either, although all a skinny fat distance runner really needs to do is cut back the mileage and get in the gym and lift. You don't want to be scrawny all your life.

Lol. Guilty. I don’t think I’d test positive for chlembootierol in all my 37 years of exotic cuisine.

Logic, it's actually easy wrote:

So, an elite male athlete with a legitimate body fat percentage of 5-6%, is in the middle of his off-season, and takes a banned fat burner?

I have no dog in this fight, and really I wouldn't care if he got caught and got suspended, but the facts of the substance and his timing don't add up to guilt.

Let's call him Will Clavanaugh.

Clenbuterol can spike your metabolism and burn fat (arguably) better than any fat burner on the planet

Using an unnecessary synonym like no dog in this fight shows you are American and actually shoes bias.

Someone else asked about timing of test. Look up half life if drugs as you obviously have no common sense to work it out.

To say he us naturally slim and doesn't need to take a drug for it? Well you are either dumb or joking.

Why does every American doper get a past on here? Perhaps that's a retorical question but if someone from the UK is busted they are guilty. Most elites are probably doping if they fail s test they definitely are.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Using an unnecessary synonym like no dog in this fight shows you are American and actually shoes bias.

The word you're thinking of is idiom. It's one letter different from the word "idiot," which should help you remember it.

And to think your country invented the English language. For shame.

This is correct... wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

We have a list, right?

Allowed are

- cocaine (found in hookers)

You are quite astute in your observation...

https://cdnolympic.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/shawnbarber_vault_jasonransomphoto-9-e1471133890762.jpg?quality=100

Yes this guy just gets more and more confusing (and now he's gay)

Any time a Kenyan runs fast they get written off as dopers.

Any time an American tests positive they get off without any punishment.

Double standard

more americans dope than russia could even dream about ! their systemic drug taking in sport makes russia look like a sardine compared to a whale shark ! quite frankly im suprised if clen is the only thing hes on.one day the truth will out,and there wont be a track and field,or sport in good ole usa.itll collapse.

Holy wow, man. Did you get your 8 year old to write this? This is bad, even by Letsrun standards.

casual obsever wrote:

+1

We have a list, right?

Allowed are

- blood transfusions < 300 ml (to stay within the ABP thresholds)

- EPO only microdosing (unless the doorbell is quiet)

- testo (found in supplements)

- clen (found in beef)

- zeranol (found in beef)

- nandralon (found in toothpaste)

- salbutamol (needed for our asthma)

- cocaine (found in hookers)

- ... (aduck and pop-pop have longer lists)

Not wrong. As important though is the wholesale corruption of the federation.

Somehow, other Clen positive athletes are forgiven. Nike must have grown tired of sponsoring him.

Drug levels wrote:

zxcvzxcv wrote:

If the testing is sensitive enough to find trace amounts in the low parts per billion, then there's no "alibi"; it sounds like this is far, far below the performance enhancing level.

Is it possible that the low amounts could be that it's just that level because of the drug being metabolized? That being said, if the test was done 2 days previous, would he have been caught with higher levels? Does it work that way? I have no experience with something like this, obviously.

Basically they caught him well after he took the drug. But he was taking the drug intentionally. Just like Canelo, just like our 800 meter gals. It will help you drop bodyfat but maintain muscle mass and possibly increase strength while doing so. A lot of the benefits for athletes are still being explored to this day. Canelo uses it to maintain muscle/power while dropping weight (only an idiot believes he's clean). Same goes for Ajee Wilson and her teammate. Cheats who are let get away with it.

Prime Beef wrote:

Basically they caught him well after he took the drug. But he was taking the drug intentionally.

Maybe they knew about it, and tipped him off in advance of an upcoming test to protect him. So he could hop over to Mexico for his alibi.

I personally doubt Claye is a cheater, but it does look like there is a double standard at work here. Triple Jumper Chris Carter tested positive in 2017 for a steroid and traced it to contaminated Creatine. The container had a label guaranteeing that it was safe, and he received assurances from the sales person as well. He was still banned for 9 months. I tried to help him hire legal counsel to sue the Creatine manufacturer, but although he was ranked #4 in the world at the time, the amount of prize and appearance money he expected to make was so meager that a 33% contingency fee was not worth it to the sport tort lawyers we contacted.

Carter would like to coach at the college level when he is finished competing, but he will have to overcome the stigma of being a “convicted doper.”

If there is any other reason for the disparity between the treatment afforded Claye and Carter besides Claye’s being a superstar, I sure don’t see it.

Logic, it's actually easy wrote:

So, an elite male athlete with a legitimate body fat percentage of 5-6%, is in the middle of his off-season, and takes a banned fat burner?

I have no dog in this fight, and really I wouldn't care if he got caught and got suspended, but the facts of the substance and his timing don't add up to guilt.

Let's call him Will Clavanaugh.

Clenbuterol can spike your metabolism and burn fat (arguably) better than any fat burner on the planet

You’re incorrectly assuming Claye is 5-6% bodyfat naturally....

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

Logic, it's actually easy wrote:

So, an elite male athlete with a legitimate body fat percentage of 5-6%, is in the middle of his off-season, and takes a banned fat burner?

I have no dog in this fight, and really I wouldn't care if he got caught and got suspended, but the facts of the substance and his timing don't add up to guilt.

Let's call him Will Clavanaugh.

You’re incorrectly assuming Claye is 5-6% bodyfat naturally....

Alan

Ohhhh, well pardon me. Perhaps he's 7-8% in the off-season. Gosh, I don't work with elite males or anything, or have off-season DEXA scans, or... wait, maybe I do.

I hope your post made you feel better, for a few minutes.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Not wrong. As important though is the wholesale corruption of the federation.

Well, if I say that, you-know-who starts monologuing/rambling forever, so I better be quiet.

For some reason, he lets you get away with pointing that out.