Cosby out in three?

messi wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Putting an 81-year old in prison is a somewhat extreme. His going from from a revered person, though undeserved, to pariah is enough humiliation for me.

You realize Cosby is faking the frailty, right? What lawyer wouldn't use that ploy?

I saw him live a few weeks before the first of the allegations became big news. It was obvious he wasn't in the best of health then. I'm sure the last few years have taken an additional toll.

Even in his weakened state it was the funniest comedy show I've ever been to.

Not faking it wrote:

messi wrote:

You realize Cosby is faking the frailty, right? What lawyer wouldn't use that ploy?

I saw him live a few weeks before the first of the allegations became big news. It was obvious he wasn't in the best of health then. I'm sure the last few years have taken an additional toll.

Even in his weakened state it was the funniest comedy show I've ever been to.

Ok. But it just seems a little too, well, CONVENIENT.

So, the friend of a friend of a friend back in the 70s, that allegedly was assaulted in the 80s, but didn't make a claim until 35 years later is your source?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diVaagssHYQ

Definitely have me convinced.

Well the prison in Collegeville is a picnic. You can take the bus there from Norristown in about 15 minutes. They have rolling fields and gardens and barns that they workers hang out in all day. Most of the inmates get on the Septa bus in the morning and go off to jobs then come home riding free on the public bus to free dinner and free room and board. Better to be in this prison than to make $12.50 an hour and pay taxes working at most fast food restaurants. So he will spend his days out in the yards and in the barns hanging out and smoking with the other inmates. Really this is a better like than about 40% of the jobs out there now. They should have sentenced him to 12 hours a day working fast food. That would be punishment.

I am conflicted on this. He has suffered loss of reputation and heavy financial losses. Is justice really served by giving an 81 y.o man a sentence where because of age and infirmities he may not come out alive? All things considered I think 6 months - 1 yr would have been more appropriate, I feel for the victims and yea seeing that Cosby mug shot flashed across screens everywhere broke my heart. There are no winners here.

messi wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Putting an 81-year old in prison is a somewhat extreme. His going from from a revered person, though undeserved, to pariah is enough humiliation for me.

You realize Cosby is faking the frailty, right? What lawyer wouldn't use that ploy?

When you're 81 years old a birth certificate is proof of fragility.

I'm not playing down what he did, but a punishment of what could effectively a life sentence should be reserved for murderers.

"Frailty"

westsouthrunner wrote:

Suitable wrote:

Drugging and raping unsuspecting women is somewhat extreme to me.

You think it is suspicious that when he was preparing to buy NBC. All of these rape claims came about?

Uncle Bill had been doing this since the late 70's. Zero correlation in my mind.

Rebad9 wrote:

Well the prison in Collegeville is a picnic. You can take the bus there from Norristown in about 15 minutes. They have rolling fields and gardens and barns that they workers hang out in all day. Most of the inmates get on the Septa bus in the morning and go off to jobs then come home riding free on the public bus to free dinner and free room and board. Better to be in this prison than to make $12.50 an hour and pay taxes working at most fast food restaurants. So he will spend his days out in the yards and in the barns hanging out and smoking with the other inmates. Really this is a better like than about 40% of the jobs out there now. They should have sentenced him to 12 hours a day working fast food. That would be punishment.

I love when people post information they know nothing about. Look up Grateford prison before you write something proving how dumb you are.

The worst of the worst is housed there.

He will be housed there until he is evaluated and then it will be determined where he will serve his sentence . They have opened a new prison and closed The old Graterford so it might be cleaner but it is the same inmates.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

messi wrote:

You realize Cosby is faking the frailty, right? What lawyer wouldn't use that ploy?

When you're 81 years old a birth certificate is proof of fragility.

I'm not playing down what he did, but a punishment of what could effectively a life sentence should be reserved for murderers.

I have a strong feeling that you've not experienced something like this in a personal way. Be assured that your attitude and viewpoint would certainly be different.

I have to keep reminding myself not to underestimate the narcissistic misogyny of so many posters here.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

messi wrote:

You realize Cosby is faking the frailty, right? What lawyer wouldn't use that ploy?

When you're 81 years old a birth certificate is proof of fragility.

I'm not playing down what he did, but a punishment of what could effectively a life sentence should be reserved for murderers.

So, then any 81+ y/o individual should be able to commit major crimes like rape or murder without fear of punishment? Is that what you're saying?

MixedFeelings wrote:

I am conflicted on this. He has suffered loss of reputation and heavy financial losses. Is justice really served by giving an 81 y.o man a sentence where because of age and infirmities he may not come out alive? All things considered I think 6 months - 1 yr would have been more appropriate, I feel for the victims and yea seeing that Cosby mug shot flashed across screens everywhere broke my heart. There are no winners here.

I'm not conflicted at all about this. He was a predator who drugged and raped women. I don't care how old or frail he is, people like that need to get locked up.

Bigfoot wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

When you're 81 years old a birth certificate is proof of fragility.

I'm not playing down what he did, but a punishment of what could effectively a life sentence should be reserved for murderers.

So, then any 81+ y/o individual should be able to commit major crimes like rape or murder without fear of punishment? Is that what you're saying?

You didn't read what I said. At his age, the sentence he received is like to be for the rest of his life which is penalty that should be reserved for violent crimes such as murder.

westsouthrunner wrote:

heelstrikefascist wrote:

what? the rape claims were around for many years. in fact, it was such an open secret that Hannibal Burress started doing a standup routine about it. That's what brought it back from the shadows.

I just think its suspicious and I respect the judgement. How will we ever know that they weren't willingly taking the drugs. I try to view things like this from a neutral place. Whenever I hear a rumor in life I take it as a rumor. I am this way because I have had two friends who were athletes get accused for incidents with women when they did not even do anything and had proof. If they were public figures their careers would probably be over.

60+ of them since the 1960's...

Yeah. all liars.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

You didn't read what I said. At his age, the sentence he received is like to be for the rest of his life which is penalty that should be reserved for violent crimes such as murder.

Any prison sentence is a life sentence if the prisoner happens to die in jail. That's the risk that the criminal accepts when he commits his crime. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. There are no age graded sentencing guidelines. This is a crime with victims who have to live with what he did to them.

Cosby would have a life sentence if he could be convicted for all of the times he has drugged and raped women. It was so well known that it was a big joke. I guess he didn't have the guts or the personality to convince women to sleep with him without drugging them into a coma.

I don't get the point of requiring him to register as a sexual predator? It's not as though there is anyone who doesn't know that the old guy who looks just like Bill Cosby, and lives in Bill Cosby's mansion, is actually Bill Cosby, who drugged and rape some women.

Registering is going to accomplish exactly what?

comedyrelief wrote:

So, the friend of a friend of a friend back in the 70s, that allegedly was assaulted in the 80s, but didn't make a claim until 35 years later is your source?

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So what happens if the rape is reported immediately, and their is no evidence other than the "victim's" word? Does that make the allegation valid?

What if both the police and prosecutor fabricate evidence, and withhold evidence that would clear you? You think that it could never happen do you?

(I've actually met McCaffrey)

Meh, I think he will die before he gets out, anyway.