^You'd think after the literal thousands of Kenyans have been mentioned on these boards most would be familiar with Kenyan naming customs by now. The guy's name is Emmanuel Kipkemboi Saina.
^You'd think after the literal thousands of Kenyans have been mentioned on these boards most would be familiar with Kenyan naming customs by now. The guy's name is Emmanuel Kipkemboi Saina.
El Keniano wrote:
^You'd think after the literal thousands of Kenyans have been mentioned on these boards most would be familiar with Kenyan naming customs by now. The guy's name is Emmanuel Kipkemboi Saina.
Up till this year he had a PB of 14:38 5k and 3:49 1500m. Than out of nowhere he runs a 1:02 half marathon than a 2:05 marathon. Ignore his ethnicity for a moment, anyone who does that just doesn't pass the smell test.
https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/kenya/emmanuel-saina-392988What year did you pussies start calling 68 degrees hot
Sand Dunes wrote:
Up till this year he had a PB of 14:38 5k and 3:49 1500m. Than out of nowhere he runs a 1:02 half marathon than a 2:05 marathon. Ignore his ethnicity for a moment, anyone who does that just doesn't pass the smell test.
Of course many times run in Kenya are at altitude, so we gotta take the 14 minutes with a grain of salt. Still a remarkable emergence for sure.
14:38 for 5K is only 61:45 half marathon pace. He then does that pace for more than quadruple the distance, and it is no big deal.
Also, I have never heard someone call 14:38 "14 minutes".
That kid looked like he was hurting those last few miles! Just awesome to watch.
He reminds me of Moses Mosop in body/build/form.
He was absolutely trashed at the finish line. Couldn't even stand up.
He didn't even know what pace he was running. Pretty awesome.
Congrats.
Race was short.
You are all pussies wrote:
What year did you pussies start calling 68 degrees hot
IKR? Just realised it is 20 degrees Celsius, which is considered cool temps in Kenya. Quite disappointed by the unnecessary innuendo especially by supposedly respectable journos.
https://twitter.com/jgault13/status/1043869722973007877https://twitter.com/d9monti/status/1043975763798740993Also, from video and photos, it does not look hot by any stretch. Spectators are wearing sweaters and jackets.
Do we not realize he is 4-minutes behind the WR? How is this earth-shattering? It's like running a 4:05 mile when Bannister ran 3:59. I think it's a clean run. You can tell the guy wasn't trained for a marathon and was hurting. Awesome run for him. Kudos.
kjk wrote:
Do we not realize he is 4-minutes behind the WR? How is this earth-shattering? It's like running a 4:05 mile when Bannister ran 3:59. I think it's a clean run. You can tell the guy wasn't trained for a marathon and was hurting. Awesome run for him. Kudos.
no your right not a big deal, just a slow course so say like NYC running a 2:05, when your next best effort was a 2:09 equivalent with only 14:35 5k credentials....maybe you didnt read into it further either where it says at one point dude was on 1:59 pace
how many 2:09 guys all the sudden can drop 4min+ and rock under 2 hr pace on a HARD hilly course?
nothing to see here
Duh. The way the earth rotates, marathons are 5% faster in the southern hemisphere. More ground moves under your feet when you're in the air.
runnerdave wrote:
Duh. The way the earth rotates, marathons are 5% faster in the southern hemisphere. More ground moves under your feet when you're in the air.
buuuuut what if the earth is flat....maybe thats why EPO doesnt work!?!?!??!
Many things to say:
1- It was 66/68C at the start. Since 5k/10k, it was 70C, and after 30k mark, it was 72C with sun. Broadcasters said it, and I uploaded the full race video. Also I saw the forecast live. The humidity was in the 70s according weather channel, and 80s according the broadcast. I put 70, which is more reasonable.
2-Peruvian Pacheco (3rd in 2:11) in the final interview (minute 34 in the video part 4) said clearly that the circuit was hilly "muchas subidas y bajadas. No es nada plano" (Is far from flat). And complained about wind and sun. He's from Huancayo, in the Andes Mountains, but said that there's no wind there. It seems like he had a sub 2:10 in his legs, but this is not Berlin 2018 marathon.
3-The race was awarded with IAAF Bronze Label, so, there was an IAAF official measurer who was paid by organization. He measured the circuit two different times, like they do in other Marathons like Barcelona, Venice, Shenzhen, Geneve, etc. Broadcasters explained that in the video.
El Keniano wrote:
You are all pussies wrote:
What year did you pussies start calling 68 degrees hot
IKR? Just realised it is 20 degrees Celsius, which is considered cool temps in Kenya. Quite disappointed by the unnecessary innuendo especially by supposedly respectable journos.
https://twitter.com/jgault13/status/1043869722973007877https://twitter.com/d9monti/status/1043975763798740993
Unnecessary? Come on man. My job isn't to play cheerleader, it's to report relevant facts, and the fact that a guy who came out of nowhere to run a 2:05 marathon is represented by an agency that has had several of its best athletes test positive in recent years is certainly relevant.
I don't know whether Kipkemboi is doping or not -- I didn't know anything about the guy before Sunday -- but would you rather I just stick my head in the sand?
^ Look, I get that the Rosas in Kenya are seen in the same light as the NOP in the U.S. But we don't question every NOP performance for a reason: lack of proof. Take Sifan Hassan's insane debut at the half last week. It would be really unfair to start insinuating stuff just because of her group's dodgy rep.
^look el k I know you don't want to admit it but Kenya has a doping problem. And when something is too good to be true it usually is.
El Keniano wrote:
^ Look, I get that the Rosas in Kenya are seen in the same light as the NOP in the U.S. But we don't question every NOP performance for a reason: lack of proof. Take Sifan Hassan's insane debut at the half last week. It would be really unfair to start insinuating stuff just because of her group's dodgy rep.
The point is, we knew Siffan Hassan because we saw her in the Diamond League/WCs/OGs.
Jon Gault asked who's this guy because nobody knows him very well. And his track times are subpar, even for American standards.
Ben L Wrong wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
^ Look, I get that the Rosas in Kenya are seen in the same light as the NOP in the U.S. But we don't question every NOP performance for a reason: lack of proof. Take Sifan Hassan's insane debut at the half last week. It would be really unfair to start insinuating stuff just because of her group's dodgy rep.
The point is, we knew Siffan Hassan because we saw her in the Diamond League/WCs/OGs.
Jon Gault asked who's this guy because nobody knows him very well. And his track times are subpar, even for American standards.
Those times were run in Kenya. Of course they're slower.
El Keniano wrote:
Ben L Wrong wrote:
The point is, we knew Siffan Hassan because we saw her in the Diamond League/WCs/OGs.
Jon Gault asked who's this guy because nobody knows him very well. And his track times are subpar, even for American standards.
Those times were run in Kenya. Of course they're slower.
They’re slow, period.
Then suddenly they’re obscene. Hmm.
Which NOP athletes have been popped for EPO? I’ll wait.