Flash news! Saina Kipkemboi 2:05:20 debut! Running alone the last 17km, heat, humidity and hilly circuit in Buenos Aires!

kkj wrote:

Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yfhDZV78rc

More stats:

28:21 between 25k and 35k (1:59:40 rhythm)

Ben L Wrong wrote:

kkj wrote:

Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yfhDZV78rc

More stats:

28:21 between 25k and 35k (1:59:40 rhythm)

The best thing is he will now get INVITED to ALL the TOP MARATHONS, Fukuoka (May be too soon)Tokyo? London?.

Seriously do Kenyans not know we don't belive them anymore?

Ben L Wrong wrote:

This is equivalent to a 2:03 debut in faster courses.

Who is this athlete Saina Kipkemboi? If you know the circuit, you could figure that this 2:05:20 it's equivalent to a 2:03low in Berlin.

70% humidity

70° F since 5k

Hills similar to New York

Running alone after 25k (when he dropped Marius Kipserem and Barnabas Kiptum)

There's no IAAF profile for Kipkemboi.

This is also, the all-time fastest Marathon in South American soil.

I saw the live Broadcast. This kid is going to break 2:02. No kidding.

Who?

“Go on take the money and run.”

It appears that he was entered to the race as a pacer for the first 30k.

Federico Rosa allowed him to finish the race last week.

Full article

https://www.lanacion.com.ar/2174918-el-keniata-kipkemboi-rompio-relojes-gano-maraton/amp/2174918

This is probably the most unexpected sub 2:06 of all time.

Kenya believe it? wrote:

Hey El K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ej5k_SxUs

Yore welcome.

And? This isn't current or new. I saw it when it first aired over two years ago in 2016 (before the Rio Olympics) and it was, indeed, damning and truly distressing. First for the abject poverty and conditions highlighted for these aspiring runners and, especially, for the corruption where funds intended for development of Kenyan athletics were siphoned off to private accounts by former officials like David Okeyo and the late Isaiah Kiplagat. A true betrayal. This was around the time Kenya was declared non-compliant for nonexistent doping controls. This was also when Kenyan busts had peaked and not single digits like now. Dreadful. (BTW, I was at that meet in Nakuru and took surreptitious phone pics of both Renato Canova and Ade Adepitan, the journalist on that piece. Yes, I'm a creep ?).

A couple of things, though. ADAK has since been formed and situation is no longer as wild. The kind backstreet quacks that prey on the poor, uneducated and vulnerable have since had the book thrown at them. The runners featured are essentially amateur, fourth-tier types most of whom don't have a ghost of a chance of breaking into Kenya's elite ranks. Meaning, they will never be in anyone's testing pool. It's easy for a hooded cheat to say "most cheat like me" to justify his own doping, but the professionals have always been tested OOC even as I believe Kenya still can't afford to test at these, the lowest ranks, because of the sheer numbers involved .

And, don't get me started on the phoney and pathetic Wesley Korir. I'm glad at least one of the comments under the video is on to him. Here's a guy that was given the rare opportunity of being elected MP, which is an extremely powerful position in Kenya. He then goes on to spend his five-year term looking out for himself, doing nothing for his constituents or athletics, yapping and engaging in the very practices he's talking about in the video. Last year, his rural constituents made it clear they'd had enough and rightly booted him out of office by a landslide. What do I have against American educated Wesley Korir, I hear you ask? Well, for starters, I think he's a truly corrupt, hypocritical piece of garbage. He used his position of power to force himself into the Kenyan Olympic marathon team, thereby cheating at least a dozen more deserving athletes of the chance to represent their country, and then proceeded to to run pathetically and DNF in Rio. A selfish man who never cared about representing anyone but himself. Excuse me if I don't hold him in the same esteem as some on these boards and take every word he says with a large grain of salt. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Ben L Wrong wrote:

kkj wrote:

Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yfhDZV78rc

More stats:

28:21 between 25k and 35k (1:59:40 rhythm)

Ugh. Another Rosa athlete.

Ben L Wrong wrote:

It appears that he was entered to the race as a pacer for the first 30k.

Federico Rosa allowed him to finish the race last week.

Full article

This is probably the most unexpected sub 2:06 of all time.

Federico Rosa? The same guy who Asbel Kiprop was complaining about concerning his lack of performance in 2016 (off the sauce cause the testers were on him at that point) because this agent was being accused of being involved in doping and then Kiprop goes on to test positive.

This 2:05 couldn't get anymore convenient.

Sand Dunes wrote:

Anyone knowledgeable in the pharmaceutical industry? If so, can you let us know what the new hot sauce is? Recently (7:28 3k, 12:43 5k, a teenager running 3:31, 26:44 road 10k, crazy number of sub 60 min half marathons , sub 2:06 marathons are common) it feels like the 90s again. Whatever the new innovation is, it works.

It's called The Internet!

Even small villages in Africa has had the net and a couple of smarthphones to rent for a couple of years now. Ten year olds can now follow their idols and the global running scene and get informed on various training practices on a level previously unheard off. An eighteen year old from Africa can now arrive on the scene with knowledge a twentyfive year old had to experience himself just ten years ago.

And the addition of women to Kenyan and Ethiopian training groups are on top of that of course boosting natural testosteron levels - men get even more competetive with hot chicks around them. So yeah, the explosion of african female runners (remember, kenyan women didn't regularly medal until just 10-15 years ago) are driving their male counterparts to even higher performance, whereas this is nothing new any more on the american college curciut.

European Soccer has a similar inflow of surprisingly well educated young players already at arrival.

Now of course Europe also has a big inflow of unemployablee africans refugees without any sellable skills - but a surprisingly high number of them too arrives with a smartphone in their hands.

Compare YOUR life before the internet to the life you have now - the shift is even bigger for those coming from poverty.

Where are all these Kenyans coming from?......

here we go wrote:

Where are all these Kenyans coming from?......

Kenya

probably a combo of lots of epo and peptides.some of them take cutting steroids as well.i dont think the formula has changed much.

Go back and measure the course.

Katz will find it 600-800 + meters short.

Subway Surfers wrote:

Seriously do Kenyans not know we don't belive them anymore?

Speak for yourself.

Did you watch the documentary?

This guy will have literally burnt himself out after this race and will never run that fast again. I don't expect to here anything more from him. Just another flash in the pan which will disappear before WADA have a chance to go near him.

Nice.

Watching one guy run fast and the whole boards go berserk and cry ''short course'' and ''EPO''

Pathetic but at the same time kind of funny

douglas burke wrote:

Ben L Wrong wrote:

More stats:

28:21 between 25k and 35k (1:59:40 rhythm)

The best thing is he will now get INVITED to ALL the TOP MARATHONS, Fukuoka (May be too soon)Tokyo? London?.

problem is when he lines up for one of the big name ones he goes down like sumgong and jeptoo....or runs a 2:09

Lols wrote:

Nice.

Watching one guy run fast and the whole boards go berserk and cry ''short course'' and ''EPO''

Pathetic but at the same time kind of funny

IKR? But he has other things to worry about. Like the fact they’ve jumbled the order of his name, probably forever. The guy’s name is Emmanuel Kipkemboi Saina.

Lols wrote:

Nice.

Watching one guy run fast and the whole boards go berserk and cry ''short course'' and ''EPO''

Pathetic but at the same time kind of funny

Managed by Federico Rosa = doped to the gills.