Jordan Hasay pulls OUT of the 2018 BOA Chicago Marathon with injury

Please, that’s one photo. I’ll post some others...

What is too thin? wrote:

I’m sorry but you don’t put on the kind of muscle she has by being “malnourished”. Jorgensen and Flanagan are much thinner framed . Some women are genetically predisposed to stress fractures just like they are osteoarthritis in older age. There may be things that can happen nutritionally to help that have nothing to do with just “more calories”. But that doesn’t mean she’s malnourished.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj82j-SHnGS/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1k0mb7o5fm9pt

pnw_runner wrote:

Are your thoughts based on anything other than her appearance?

It seems unlikely to me that with all of the things Salazar and the NOP do to get marginal gains, they'd overlook something as important as nutrition.

No photo needed. She’s hideously underweight. It’s clear to see. Her face has the puffy cheeks of someone with malnutrition.

Update on her injury...

https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a23322818/jordan-hasay-withdraw-from-chicago-marathon/?utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowTWRW&utm_source=twitter

Hardloper wrote:

Update on her injury.

Nice article. Thanks.

she’s spent most of 2018 cross-training after she sustained two different fractures in her left calcaneus, the bone in her heel. In April, she withdrew from Boston the day before the marathon after an MRI showed the injury. She took a month off of running, and returned to full training gradually over the summer to prepare for Chicago on October 7.

Her training, which included a 25-mile run within the past week, was going well, until she felt pain in the same spot. A scan revealed a second fracture, forcing her to withdraw from Chicago.

That's a recurring injury, definitely caused by the shoes,

probably because the shoes are too soft, and the design of the shoes is not contiguous with her feet.

A month off running does not seem like enough time for a calcaneal stress fracture to heal. I’m not surprised she re-injured it.

pnw_runner wrote:

I am sad to hear this. Jordan is a nice person and I wish her a speedy and full recovery.

It's also sad how many people on here take pleasure in other people's misfortune, but this is Letsrun so totally not a surprise.

Exactly. So many sad, insecure, jealous people...

I don’t care who her coach is, she seems like a genuinely good person and I wish her well.

kipchoge fat wrote:

Yep1 wrote:

Yep... not strong or muscular. Bag of bones.

Can't run high mileage and high intensity with such a frail body

Fat people never get overuse injuries. Being heavy reduces the pounding on your body while running. Fat is the optimal running weight.

What she really needs to do is put on Kipchoge weight. That fat b*stard is never injured. If she could only put on a lot of weight like every other elite marathon runner she would clearly not be injured.

And stop wearing Nike. Only people who run in Nike get overuse injuries. Yup.

Oh yeah - and stop running on a round planet. People who run on a flat earth don't get injured because they don't have to combat the curvature.

This thread of ignorance is ridiculous.

Thank you. I needed that laugh- well said.

Cheers.

Hardloper wrote:

Update on her injury...

https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a23322818/jordan-hasay-withdraw-from-chicago-marathon/?utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowTWRW&utm_source=twitter

Thank you. As I expected, after reading that article I can’t help but hope that Jordan finds success. She is so positive and humble. The fact that people hate her just because they hate Alberto is so unfair. For years I have told my children and friends “choose to be happy”. To read Jordan say the same thing gave me goosebumps... ignore the idiots and naysayers and choose to be happy. That said, I honestly believe that jumping straight into hard core cross training might be part of the problem. As I read the article I was thinking about Lynn Jennings and how she made a point of taking a month off to gain weight. She purposely ate ice cream and gained weight at the end of each season. Perhaps Jordan should do the same... then hit the cross training hard.

3 posts in one night, that is my yearly total!

Cheers!

+1

Tell me if this would be a red flag to you

"Her hour-long strength-training sessions began with a warm-up of dynamic stretching, followed by core and hip work and some kettlebell drills. Next came the heavy work: She deadlifted 205 pounds (twice her body weight) and box squatted the same, usually doing circuits with those two moves plus air lunges and box jumps."

Air lunges and box jumps and they wonder why she has a heal fracture?

Not a fan of this nonsense...... wrote:

Air lunges and box jumps and they wonder why she has a heal fracture?

I agree, those are bad for a distance runner, and there's no good reason to do them.

Aberfeldy 12 wrote:

pnw_runner wrote:

I am sad to hear this. Jordan is a nice person and I wish her a speedy and full recovery.

It's also sad how many people on here take pleasure in other people's misfortune, but this is Letsrun so totally not a surprise.

Exactly. So many sad, insecure, jealous people...

I don’t care who her coach is, she seems like a genuinely good person and I wish her well.

Fair enough, but many a good athlete has been ruined by a coach.

Not a fan of this nonsense...... wrote:

Tell me if this would be a red flag to you

"Her hour-long strength-training sessions began with a warm-up of dynamic stretching, followed by core and hip work and some kettlebell drills. Next came the heavy work: She deadlifted 205 pounds (twice her body weight) and box squatted the same, usually doing circuits with those two moves plus air lunges and box jumps."

Air lunges and box jumps and they wonder why she has a heal fracture?

I wonder if Eliud Kipchoge does all that stuff?

dunes runner wrote:

Not a fan of this nonsense...... wrote:

Air lunges and box jumps and they wonder why she has a heal fracture?

I agree, those are bad for a distance runner, and there's no good reason to do them.

Box jumps are bad for a distance runner?

Jordan is trapped and will never be happy until she parts ways with Nike.

Her agent, coach, and sponsor are all joined at the hip and she has no one to talk to. She is depressed. That is obvious by her need to say things like “choose to be happy”. That is a huge red flag that she is trying to convince herself. She needs help and feels trapped. Nike is not easy to walk away from.

Annette Peters had to retire and later sign with ASICS to get away from Alberto and Nike. Ritz had to blame it on his family to get away.

I wish Jordan the best but this is not going to end well.

It's a good thing I'm able to read between lines of the RW article. It is obvious the underlying problem with Jordan's recurring injury has to do with a combination of running in the unbalanced states of Oregon and California, working for a shoe company that promotes lefty liberal agenda, and too much weight on her shoulders.

Also, Jordan is likely not in a good place mentally because of the following news items.

1: Catholic church in a slow implosion from evil forces from within.

2: The witch-hunt and media hate directed at our wonderful President Trump.

3: The Democratic hi-jinks and overt corruption of the Supreme Court process.

To turn things around I suggest the following:

1: Leave the Catholic church behind and find a Bible-believing conservative Protestant denomination that follows orthodox Christian beliefs.

2: Opt out of Nike contract and find a company that will support your running habit. Maybe Chik-Fil-A?

3: Look up Ryan Hall and see if Sara needs training partner.

4: Less weight training and more running on "Pure Hate".

5: Less social media unless you are re-tweeting President Trump's tweets.

6: Best to unfriend Alexi Pappas as she is a bad influence for her traitorous act turning back on America and running for Greece.

M.A.G.A.

S.O.W.P.

D.D.M.P.

Hardloper wrote:

Update on her injury...

https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a23322818/jordan-hasay-withdraw-from-chicago-marathon/?utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowTWRW&utm_source=twitter

Good article, thanks for linking.

JH: "The old [calcaneal fracture] was horizontal, and this one is vertical, which is angled right at the subtalar joint. So that can be really bad if I needed surgery. We just really want to make sure that it heals well. I’m thinking about the future."

hueynews wrote:

dunes runner wrote:

I agree, those are bad for a distance runner, and there's no good reason to do them.

Box jumps are bad for a distance runner?

All the plyo work a distance runner needs is running drills (think hill bounding and skipping) and running hills. As far as strength training is concerned all you need is 5-6 basic compound movements to do. All you need to do in the weight room is the following:

Squats (back or front squats or even zercher), deadlifts, bench or dips, chin ups or pull ups, standing over head press or push press, and barbell rows. If you want you can do some olympic lifts, but I do not believe those are necessary.

As far as rep range and sets. You want to build strength and explosiveness in the weight room. You do this with pause reps, no bouncing the weight. Bouncing the weight is how people injure themselves in the weight room. Reps for explosiveness is best around the 1-6 rep range. How many sets? It depends on the athlete.

The most DNS/DNF running group in the elite sport had another DNS/DNF? Shocking!

Rupp Boston DNF

Hasay Boston DNS

Rupp Copenhagen DNS

Hasay Copenahagen DNS

Hasay Chicago DNS

And that's just the roads, 2018. Rupp has more DNS and DNF results than any other elite. (Maybe that's why he's only won one major international race in his career.)

Also, can you see the missing part in the above list? I expect an announcement soon...